Unknown Oral History Interview Audio [02]

00;00;00;00 - Unknown Interviewer: Health, education and welfare. I think it is a good study and. Also in the data sheet. So.

00;00;17;17 - Unknown Interviewer: Really? What’s your middle name? Cobra. Oh wow. Well I need to I just need do you know what is your middle name?

00;00;33;02 - Unknown Interviewee: even I know the market. Market?

00;00;39;29 - Unknown Interviewer: But how would you describe that.

00;00;41;15 - Unknown Interviewee: Area to.

00;00;42;19 - Unknown: You? Are you thinking.

00;00;46;25 - Unknown Interviewer: Anything of easy and. The little things and places do.

00;00;56;27 - Unknown Interviewee: I was born in November of 2018. Moved to in Q4, was to go to school. So in of you.

00;01;11;19 - Unknown Interviewer: Are oh yeah. I was 23 was going to go on the train and I’m on the right track was from Minnesota and Chicago. To see you again.

00;01;25;03 - Unknown Interviewee: This is 970 Spruce Street.

00;01;32;24 - Unknown: And you’re from.

00;01;36;08 - Unknown Interviewee: Trinity. Five to 2 to 2.

00;01;41;28 - Unknown Interviewer: That’s every the local first residents in Idaho. And I know that it was 916 Spruce Street.

00;01;56;25 - Unknown Interviewer: Original local.

00;01;58;29 - Unknown Interviewee: Before emigration. Whitely grew.

00;02;13;06 - Unknown Interviewer: Approximately. Everyone in Idaho.

00;02;16;15 - Unknown Interviewee: came here in May 25th, 1949.

00;02;20;07 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, really? Wow. Right. And I came the 1st of May.

00;02;27;10 - Unknown Interviewer: Mode of travel.

00;02;28;28 - Unknown Interviewee: We came with car companions.

00;02;32;11 - Unknown Interviewer: Friendship.

00;02;33;22 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, I just remember in my four point.

00;02;38;10 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh and and say, is it here somewhere from. Okay. So that would be Janice and Judy.

00;02;44;26 - Unknown Interviewee: And Jeff and Jim.

00;02;56;28 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh. Family background. You, mom, family and maiden name?

00;03;01;21 - Unknown Interviewee: Mean name. My mother’s name was, Mildred Cowden.

00;03;14;07 - Unknown Interviewer: Jean remembers occasion and job.

00;03;18;13 - Unknown Interviewee: She just was a housewife.

00;03;20;19 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Not for.

00;03;23;26 - Unknown Interviewee: You and I. Good for us.

00;03;29;19 - Unknown Interviewer: And date of birth? My mother. Yeah, I don’t know. My mom would have given birth place.

00;03;35;04 - Unknown Interviewee: And I’m, like, with my Bible.

00;03;37;20 - Unknown Interviewer: I hope you put it on that.

00;03;48;07 - Unknown Interviewee: her name was Mildred Calvin. Into born it and and look cool, too. Angelic was coming up December 1st, 1891.

00;04;03;15 - Unknown Interviewer: You are date of death. Or is she still alive?

00;04;07;29 - Unknown Interviewee: No, she died August 21st, 1955.

00;04;13;24 - Unknown Interviewer: Well, I like time ago. You’re Mary, you know that?

00;04;19;13 - Unknown Interviewee: My mother. Yeah.

00;04;20;22 - Unknown Interviewer: No, I don’t know. Okay? I how about you? Did you?

00;04;26;28 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, you know, I don’t really know what my dad, And I know what his birth date is and stuff, but I don’t know what his parents, you know, what? Their birth date or anything.

00;04;43;01 - Unknown Interviewer: well, just your dad’s birthday in place.

00;04;47;20 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, my their birth date was May 15th, 1891.

00;04;54;17 - Unknown Interviewee: And, I don’t know, it isn’t a state where he was born at. You know, my dad’s folks came from Germany.

00;04;59;29 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, really?

00;05;00;26 - Unknown Interviewee: And he was.

00;05;01;25 - Unknown Interviewer: In a region in. Oh.

00;05;03;15 - Unknown Interviewee: I don’t know if, he was born in the country or in Germany. I really don’t know, because my dad said to.

00;05;13;02 - Unknown Interviewer: Him, yeah. Oh, well, what was his first name?

00;05;16;02 - Unknown Interviewee: Herbert. Mark.

00;05;20;24 - Unknown Interviewer: I think that Mark would be were French, but I.

00;05;23;26 - Unknown Interviewee: Mean, it is that is French. And he. But I’ll tell you, that really isn’t a name. But that’s the name that we’ve always meant by.

00;05;31;17 - Unknown Interviewer: Their name.

00;05;32;20 - Unknown Interviewee: Was m a r q u e r d t. But when they came to.

00;05;42;12 - Unknown Interviewee: To. The United States, I guess the girls in his family like my my dad’s sisters, you know, they didn’t like the sound of that name.

00;05;54;28 - Unknown Interviewer: So these were some German.

00;05;57;05 - Unknown Interviewee: I don’t know, they just started Belmont Market so that we did on our birth certificates and everything. So that but actually the spelling of that name should be 2URD2G. And then it would be Margaret in three.

00;06;13;28 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Oh well. Oh. What do you do for a job. Practically.

00;06;20;24 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, after he was out here. Well, my dad was a farmer at one time. And then he worked on the railroad for.

00;06;31;18 - Unknown Interviewer: The in Idaho that he.

00;06;32;23 - Unknown Interviewee: Ran in the railroad Milwaukee Road. He worked for,

00;06;38;27 - Unknown Interviewer: That the one that had the. If you turn off bridge on the way here and 95.

00;06;47;02 - Unknown Interviewee: Oh, you mean coming from Moscow? No. That train goes up through Avery Milwaukee Road. It was an hour walk. It was? Yeah. It’s still there. Still running. my mom used to come back east all the time when I still lived back there on that train. And you can come to Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

00;07;05;24 - Unknown Interviewer: So you’re here throughout your career?

00;07;07;29 - Unknown Interviewee: Yeah.

00;07;09;02 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Okay. Siblings, sisters and brothers, mine. Yeah.

00;07;15;23 - Unknown Interviewee: Oh, boy. I have well, my older sister name was Betty.

00;07;28;04 - Unknown Interviewee: And her last name, do you want or just.

00;07;31;04 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah, she’s married now.

00;07;34;14 - Unknown Interviewee: More. Yeah. And she’s been married. Her husband said you. Her name was been.

00;07;44;21 - Unknown Interviewee: Growing in my neck. Told me. Next oldest one is my brother. Are are in court.

00;07;53;12 - Unknown Interviewer: Kid who? And,

00;07;58;29 - Unknown Interviewee: My sister Annie. Your name is Smith.

00;08;03;28 - Unknown Interviewer: Or the mine is going to be hard remembered. Mine is a family.

00;08;07;19 - Unknown Interviewee: And then I’m next. And, you know.

00;08;15;24 - Unknown Interviewer: you put you down.

00;08;18;19 - Unknown Interviewee: then my sister Pearl, I mean, with Pearl craft.

00;08;26;05 - Unknown Interviewee: You know.

00;08;29;27 - Unknown Interviewee: And the twin.

00;08;32;18 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, you have twin.

00;08;34;07 - Unknown Interviewee: Brother.

00;08;34;18 - Unknown Interviewer: Brother.

00;08;37;02 - Unknown Interviewee: And there is Herbert is one year and one, and Maynard.

00;08;44;03 - Unknown Interviewee: His name is Maynard. And my killing mark here, though. Stuff that was great sounding name.

00;08;50;20 - Unknown Interviewer: Isn’t it? It is like, you know, you don’t forget your. Did you put behind the tyranny of a coat?

00;09;01;20 - Unknown Interviewer: And,

00;09;04;09 - Unknown Interviewee: Then is my sister Mildred.

00;09;13;20 - Unknown Interviewee: And me and my brother Jean.

00;09;18;09 - Unknown Interviewer: 123456. Seven. Eight. Yeah. So let me only have five children. Thank you. Sweetie. Jean. Okay. Now you.

00;09;30;07 - Unknown Interviewer: In. Oh, spouses and children, though. Jerome. It is little.

00;09;38;00 - Unknown Interviewee: Raymond.

00;09;43;21 - Unknown Interviewer: Date of birth.

00;09;46;02 - Unknown Interviewee: May 2010. Okay. Wow.

00;09;53;23 - Unknown Interviewee: Application of the paint Frederick is a retired.

00;10;00;09 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. He. He work in the. You know.

00;10;17;20 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh. Place of birth. You born in person? Yeah. He was born in a.

00;10;23;17 - Unknown Interviewee: Landmark with family in the air. Okay.

00;10;30;00 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, good. Thank you. Is.

00;10;39;04 - Unknown Interviewer: David, face me too. Well, we.

00;10;42;28 - Unknown Interviewee: Were married in mountain, Michigan.

00;10;47;01 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, yeah? Where are you? There.

00;10;51;26 - Unknown Interviewee: We went there. It was very far from, you know, it’s like gone over into Washington, over and so, May and May, August 13th.

00;11;10;00 - Unknown Interviewee: And 1934. Oh.

00;11;14;13 - Unknown Interviewer: Okay. No children and date a place of birth and their occupation. So, first, the fairness.

00;11;22;08 - Unknown Interviewee: Index, the all.

00;11;23;17 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, yeah. Oh, I can feel this. I know. And he was born Wisconsin. Yeah. No, I had a beard. Oh, here.

00;11;52;10 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, you, you know, like last night, I read what these are. Unless these are hard to drink out of.

00;12;03;22 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, well.

00;12;21;28 - Unknown Interviewee: I like to drink in, like, good black.

00;12;25;21 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh. 15 days. Yeah.

00;12;28;22 - Unknown Interviewee: One time, my little grand. One week last week.

00;12;32;21 - Unknown Interviewer: You know. Oh, yeah. So.

00;12;40;07 - Unknown Interviewer: Obviously in.

00;12;48;20 - Unknown Interviewer: This is still in Cleveland. You know that? Yeah. When are you coming back I don’t know, I think right now I know what time we’re cooking. Oh.

00;13;00;16 - Unknown Interviewee: I do maybe, you know, one day when I come to work over, I must have done right here by bye. I mean.

00;13;10;10 - Unknown Interviewer: We’re right here, and I talk.

00;13;13;01 - Unknown Interviewee: Okay. Well, I wonder lately where they’re from, I don’t know, I on them or not. You know, he was gone from here, but I mean, I don’t know, he had gone whole ham.

00;13;27;10 - Unknown Interviewer: And I still out there when.

00;13;28;23 - Unknown Interviewee: Right when we were on our way to work. And then I thought, well, now she has her off. She’ll come back here, do. But she never did come back over there and but then Robert still here. Some humidity. Just been around there some week or two. She came home. She was with him.

00;13;48;22 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah.

00;13;51;24 - Unknown Interviewer: Okay, well, see this Jack. And he was born when.

00;13;57;03 - Unknown Interviewee: He was born March 22nd, 1939, in black for.

00;14;12;16 - Unknown Interviewer: You were the TV. Well.

00;14;14;28 - Unknown Interviewee: when you work for the railroad, no.

00;14;17;20 - Unknown Interviewer: Matter what you line.

00;14;18;29 - Unknown Interviewee: No, I’m prepared.

00;14;26;21 - Unknown Interviewer: I don’t to.

00;14;31;10 - Unknown Interviewee: I don’t know what his title is. I.

00;14;35;21 - Unknown Interviewee: Need to go from what did the railroad. I don’t know if they come.

00;14;45;15 - Unknown Interviewer: Okay. And then. Then change.

00;14;47;19 - Unknown Interviewee: Jim.

00;14;51;29 - Unknown Interviewee: And she was born February 18th, 1930.

00;14;57;12 - Unknown Interviewer: Eight. Hope. My birth. And typically.

00;14;59;27 - Unknown Interviewee: She was born in.

00;15;01;29 - Unknown Interviewer: 1930

00;15;08;00 - Unknown Interviewer: You didn’t were moving near. You live here?

00;15;09;29 - Unknown Interviewee: Yeah, right in the attic. There we.

00;15;14;24 - Unknown Interviewer: Go. And Jim is your name. I’ll put that down as recitation. well, she did they sing too?

00;15;23;08 - Unknown Interviewee: Yeah.

00;15;24;14 - Unknown Interviewer: But, they care. And then.

00;15;30;17 - Unknown Interviewee: But then, Jim.

00;15;35;22 - Unknown Interviewer: He was born.

00;15;37;24 - Unknown Interviewee: He was born on October 22nd, 1941. He was born at, Leon.

00;15;49;20 - Unknown Interviewer: In Winnipeg.

00;15;50;29 - Unknown Interviewee: And moved from pewter technician.

00;15;59;27 - Unknown Interviewer: To then.

00;16;01;09 - Unknown Interviewee: To tune. His first born May in 43 to 44. And and we always.

00;16;11;02 - Unknown Interviewer: Come and go.

00;16;13;08 - Unknown Interviewee: And yeah. He’ll.

00;16;23;26 - Unknown Interviewer: In but if you do you could you could work. Well she have a good clock.

00;16;30;26 - Unknown Interviewee: Yeah.

00;16;32;07 - Unknown Interviewer: The one around the body. Oh I see and that’s it is for in the prisoner information education. You went to school counseling.

00;16;54;05 - Unknown Interviewer: In school.

00;16;57;00 - Unknown Interviewee: I don’t remember him. Oh.

00;16;59;24 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah.

00;17;00;08 - Unknown Interviewee: Let’s go, I don’t know. Well, I guess it was the, company. Sure. What? I in called.

00;17;08;02 - Unknown Interviewer: Two.

00;17;08;23 - Unknown Interviewee: Silk.

00;17;09;16 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, silk.

00;17;10;08 - Unknown Interviewee: Oh, yeah. They can’t stop. Thank her for the crib.

00;17;17;08 - Unknown Interviewee: I have worked from different jobs as waitress. Who did clerk.

00;17;24;23 - Unknown Interviewer: There. You gotta know how people gets cleared.

00;17;31;04 - Unknown Interviewer: What else could be done?

00;17;33;21 - Unknown Interviewee: Put waitress. Yeah. Short order. Cook.

00;17;36;27 - Unknown Interviewer: Too good to see. Did you?

00;17;45;09 - Unknown Interviewee: Found any job thing? Work and what do I pick? Potatoes. Many years ago. Oh.

00;17;53;14 - Unknown Interviewer: Where were you living then? We’ve gone. Oh. I’ll make more money. Do you.

00;18;01;12 - Unknown Interviewee: Ever did.

00;18;01;27 - Unknown Interviewer: Anything? You know anything down there?

00;18;05;26 - Unknown Interviewee: I work one time, six weeks. I made $510, so that was pretty good. And that was many years ago, you know? Yeah. Like, but I don’t like to 45. First of all, that was good money to be.

00;18;21;17 - Unknown Interviewer: A good money. Now occupation jobs held well all the way up the here because what you say, what you did with your occupation. Well, yeah. Look finishers so. They’re getting bored with this for. Oh. Let’s see interested parties in town folk. You can really see interest band them. club group society.

00;18;56;07 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, I don’t want any. I want to fly to royal neighbors at one time. And we’re royal neighbors down here.

00;19;08;03 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, that’s the big yellow building.

00;19;10;20 - Unknown Interviewee: You can it. Well, we I when I went, we used to meet up over the big store. But then they broke down more. They their meetings.

00;19;17;04 - Unknown Interviewer: Now you tell me about that. About you used to work in that hotel.

00;19;22;03 - Unknown Interviewee: Yeah.

00;19;22;26 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, that way you were way too.

00;19;24;19 - Unknown Interviewee: Damn.

00;19;25;07 - Unknown Interviewer: Funny.

00;19;28;21 - Unknown Interviewer: Good for awards and and ribbon. I don’t know who made this for.

00;19;33;28 - Unknown Interviewee: Well.

00;19;39;08 - Unknown Interviewer: Very good. I have to go. I have to think of Christ. Okay. Oh, you could tell it was my first one. remembering your childhood. Do you, girl, do you feel you any differently than you? Better. No. Did you feel you both had more opportunities than you?

00;20;04;20 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, not. No. They. You.

00;20;11;23 - Unknown Interviewer: do you see families now as different or similar from your.

00;20;16;08 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, they’re much different. I would say it.

00;20;19;09 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah, because it’s smaller.

00;20;20;25 - Unknown Interviewee: And a lot smaller. And. Well, I just there was no no television, no radio. You entertain yourself. You, you know.

00;20;32;09 - Unknown Interviewer: If you’re.

00;20;37;14 - Unknown Interviewer: Afraid you’ll have more to go with. Did you do did you work Katie Keller? Yeah. Right down the.

00;20;45;29 - Unknown Interviewee: Road. Right. Yeah. we work harder than the kids do. Not too. We have to get out working and garden and pick wild berries and in Wisconsin, I was using the wild berry. I used to go out to picnic tables and pails, raspberries, blueberry berry. That was one thing that was going to come back. Oh my gosh, you could pick up.

00;21;19;26 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, when I was a kid, I used to walk about ten miles down the road to pick to make water for the raspberries and bring them back to town. And, oh, you are a pale. Oh, and imagine paying a dollar for a tin or pail of berries.

00;21;38;22 - Unknown Interviewer: I, I charge that $10. Yeah, they will when they buy your I know the lingo and what.

00;21;46;03 - Unknown Interviewee: To charge the huckleberry per gallon.

00;21;48;07 - Unknown Interviewer: So which is it, you know.

00;21;49;23 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, now, last year I believe they were, for, like seven and $8 a gallon, I have one, yeah.

00;22;02;03 - Unknown Interviewer: did you, did you like it when you needed it for yourself more than watching TV?

00;22;08;13 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, I guess we did at that time because there weren’t any. Remember anything out.

00;22;13;11 - Unknown Interviewer: There.

00;22;13;26 - Unknown Interviewee: In Chicago where he was right glad if you could get the gold plans that happen. They do offer.

00;22;22;01 - Unknown Interviewer: In the olden days, they had to, make their own toys for any college kids. What? What sort of social class did you see?

00;22;35;05 - Unknown Interviewee: Something poor.

00;22;40;22 - Unknown Interviewer: Did you think you paid well? I can’t think of my own questions. Have to be the. Did you think you were discriminated against because of that? Yeah. Everyone.

00;22;49;27 - Unknown Interviewee: Well. Or most of them more. But the few that did have something, they were they treated you like you were dirt.

00;22;57;19 - Unknown Interviewer: And all of these were like potatoes were my two three. But he treats you the same.

00;23;01;21 - Unknown Interviewee: He a long time ago. No. People used to be so much different than they are now. Anybody. They have no company. Anybody here work where you work to clean family. Well you weren’t I mean, you had open, but I mean, you just didn’t have money.

00;23;16;20 - Unknown Interviewer: You have nine people. Yeah. I think there’s an over two times. And it was just that.

00;23;26;19 - Unknown Interviewee: And I do think it was different that way. I do think that now people are a lot more different. I mean.

00;23;32;19 - Unknown Interviewer: Also I think from you like it more now.

00;23;37;00 - Unknown Interviewee: I think people are better and I, I mean, I think they treat.

00;23;41;25 - Unknown Interviewer: People better than young people or never see compared to, you know, even though they wouldn’t have to show on TV and you have I don’t know how accurate those are.

00;23;55;15 - Unknown Interviewee: But, people are treated more equal than you to me.

00;24;03;11 - Unknown Interviewer: It’s no difference to people anyway, I don’t think.

00;24;06;00 - Unknown Interviewee: No, no, really. But there are a lot of people that do things. Yeah.

00;24;11;06 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Well, let’s see. How long did you know, general, before you got married? oh.

00;24;17;00 - Unknown Interviewee: I don’t know, probably about a year. So.

00;24;22;28 - Unknown Interviewer: On what basis did you decide to get married?

00;24;27;18 - Unknown Interviewee: Took over a woman to get married again.

00;24;30;13 - Unknown Interviewer: For reasons, for. Oh. Did you have a fun courtship?

00;24;38;00 - Unknown Interviewee: I think everybody does. You think you,

00;24;42;15 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh. Really strange that some of the presentations you’re giving today, the women that two that they married out of necessity. That wasn’t very much fun. Oh,

00;24;57;23 - Unknown Interviewer: Well, you daddy, they’re already grown up. What did you what did you, expect for them when they grew up? Did you have any designs that you had? There would be likely or only.

00;25;13;21 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, yes. Not really.

00;25;18;04 - Unknown Interviewer: Only 20 hours. Yeah. 24.

00;25;24;13 - Unknown Interviewee: Oh, my dear friend. And I don’t think you can live anybody else’s life for them, even if you would like to. I don’t think you could. I mean, you might wish you kids would do different or.

00;25;41;13 - Unknown Interviewer: That’s a good view. It might have something to do. Some part of the reason why they’re still around.

00;25;48;21 - Unknown Interviewee: But I think it it can help let them make up their own mind and.

00;25;57;00 - Unknown Interviewer: See we’re just big. I should do the freezing cape, but what do we drag you there? Just sick visiting our parents. You know, my parents are pretty much okay. They’ve kind of let off on me, but for now, I just parent 25 and they’re still trying to come through in my life. Well, I don’t know why they wait to visit time cleaning at home.

00;26;17;03 - Unknown Interviewer: They just think he’s going to last because, I mean, proud of it. They’re just getting down on him and telling him to be doing things like saying, you know, if he doesn’t see what the rest of the.

00;26;31;05 - Unknown Interviewee: Word to his parents, which.

00;26;33;08 - Unknown Interviewer: Is Chelsea, Michigan.

00;26;34;26 - Unknown Interviewee: Oh, I live in Michigan.

00;26;38;07 - Unknown Interviewer: You or they go to Florida in the winter is is that right?

00;26;46;13 - Unknown Interviewee: Oh, where is, Chelsea, Michigan? Look at.

00;26;50;15 - Unknown Interviewer: This. This is a promoting and.

00;26;51;28 - Unknown Interviewee: This is the the.

00;26;52;28 - Unknown Interviewer: Mitten shape. And then here Detroit itself is right about here. Oh.

00;27;00;04 - Unknown Interviewee: I never closed this because if I was in Michigan would like to up to Iron Mountain, which is just across the line, you know, from Wisconsin to Michigan.

00;27;11;13 - Unknown Interviewer: So that would be in the Upper Peninsula, right where?

00;27;14;01 - Unknown Interviewee: Up high on the map for her. Since long since I’ve been back there, that it’s kind of hard to.

00;27;24;20 - Unknown Interviewer: Where are you? Back left the mountains. We came down here. Well, really? You’re good. Oh, my parents are there. I wish they’d come out here so it’s easier for me to visit because I didn’t want to go back because it’s not as crazy anymore. But anyway, what was Potlatch like when you came here?

00;27;44;17 - Unknown Interviewee: And Potlatch had all wooden sidewalk here before them. And Potlatch own all these houses here. We had the great within this.

00;27;55;05 - Unknown Interviewer: And then by the bay.

00;27;56;09 - Unknown Interviewee: Yeah. They were kept up a lot better. Yeah. because then they had a crew that went around and painted and paper and cleaned up these people down. So when people moved in, and even if you were living in one and paying rent and your house got pretty dirty, you know, like your walls and stuff, you could go down.

00;28;19;01 - Unknown Interviewer: There and wash the wall.

00;28;20;10 - Unknown Interviewee: They’d come and clean.

00;28;21;27 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, well, you work in that the big store? No. You worked in the hotel? The waitress was. So were you working for the factory then? In the that was that privately owned?

00;28;33;15 - Unknown Interviewee: It was privately owned. And I had I work down there to take an inventory.

00;28;39;01 - Unknown Interviewer: We did the release of the factory. The people just built themselves a story.

00;28;43;11 - Unknown Interviewee: So no Potlatch actually owned that whole town.

00;28;46;28 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. So then the people that owned it would just be like here a little here became a corner spread right. And we’re going to come back in tomorrow if you have time. But yeah, but they have to get a good bird cracking. going to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The trees different. Were there tall trees around here then.

00;29;10;14 - Unknown Interviewer: Are there any trees around here?

00;29;12;20 - Unknown Interviewee: no. This tree. We just don’t like to do it right now. for the trees.

00;29;17;21 - Unknown Interviewer: How about the view? We do like to preserve virgin timber. Obviously marked off for some people. Favorite field? Some people say timber.

00;29;26;29 - Unknown Interviewee: No. When we came in, we should think it’s great now. I mean.

00;29;30;18 - Unknown Interviewer: The all the time here.

00;29;32;16 - Unknown Interviewee: The town itself, all kind of. We had all wooden sidewalks in there and buying old, old,

00;29;39;24 - Unknown Interviewer: Houses and the picket fences. Or was it only the bears?

00;29;43;11 - Unknown Interviewee: none of them had food.

00;29;45;01 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, they all met.

00;29;46;16 - Unknown Interviewee: When they were. All this was all built for a long. And they were all these long trees. And I don’t know how it all got torn up bad, like, you know, like, hunt hunters way down in the hole. Right down. This was all in them?

00;30;00;10 - Unknown Interviewer: No.

00;30;06;15 - Unknown Interviewer: see, what did you do for recreation when you first came here? They all. We we.

00;30;10;20 - Unknown Interviewee: Went to they had a show down here, and.

00;30;13;16 - Unknown Interviewer: Then we did. Was it an encounter with it as you come into town? Well.

00;30;19;07 - Unknown Interviewee: You know that, when you go down, it was right in town. You know, like when you’re walking down town, if you went down on Pine Creek, you know, where that kind of a part would come through there.

00;30;33;00 - Unknown Interviewer: You got to watch, I know.

00;30;37;01 - Unknown Interviewee: On this side of the library or, you know, where the confectionary or you know, on the other side, there’s that kind of a long building. You, you couple apartments, you know, where I mean. Yeah.

00;30;49;22 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Right. Hospital where.

00;30;51;24 - Unknown Interviewee: No.

00;30;52;11 - Unknown Interviewer: Cars there to get that.

00;30;55;25 - Unknown Interviewee: it’s right down across. You’re not quite across from the confectionary, but on this side that there’s a big apartment, real big. But it’s got 2 or 3 apartments in the wider. I don’t know what color it is. Now, for trips that used to be a trailer park sitting there. And I think somebody.

00;31;14;00 - Unknown Interviewer: Moved there on the show to show the.

00;31;15;27 - Unknown Interviewee: Show how used to be right beside them. Don’t you remember? No, you wouldn’t remember it.

00;31;21;15 - Unknown Interviewer: It burned down. You’re right there to work.

00;31;24;03 - Unknown Interviewee: Toward that old one.

00;31;25;28 - Unknown Interviewer: Would it be here with the disappearing stuff? No, they just had shows. It was the movie on the, where we,

00;31;34;14 - Unknown Interviewee: And then.

00;31;36;13 - Unknown Interviewer: Where that that was the.

00;31;39;12 - Unknown Interviewee: One who might be red is. That house is still there.

00;31;43;00 - Unknown Interviewer: Go through what looks were.

00;31;46;01 - Unknown Interviewee: There’s a.

00;31;46;27 - Unknown Interviewer: When you’re on high street when you get down there.

00;31;49;00 - Unknown Interviewee: So you know on this side of the street there’s two little houses. Am I doing the same example? They’re kind of along in this and they’re, you know, we’re we’re.

00;32;00;23 - Unknown Interviewer: We’re and then there’s.

00;32;02;25 - Unknown Interviewee: This long one and that’s got apartments with about two apartments.

00;32;09;02 - Unknown Interviewee: You know, now. Well, it used to be right beside that before you get to the first house, you know, where you cross the road, and then you start out in an over on that side, the construction. But right here, before that first home, right. It was quite a big show.

00;32;27;29 - Unknown Interviewer: Long us.

00;32;29;23 - Unknown Interviewee: And then there used to be the Riverside was also, you know, out there, you know, where Riverside is, where the bridge is.

00;32;37;01 - Unknown Interviewer: her. Oh, yeah. What was it.

00;32;39;10 - Unknown Interviewee: That used to be? A big dance hall, in a roller skating rink. One of my kids went roller skating in there. That used to be a roller skating rink.

00;32;48;00 - Unknown Interviewer: How come they’re close to this one? I know.

00;32;50;01 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, it was damaged, too, because that used to flood all the time. Oh. Were you? No. You weren’t piano folk at least. Probably. What do you remember when it started out in that big old riverside building was. And it wasn’t, but it for one of the top was sticking out all the water. One time we had pictures, but I don’t think we have to long.

00;33;12;14 - Unknown Interviewer: Ago or.

00;33;13;11 - Unknown Interviewee: Oh, maybe four years ago or something like, yeah, we had a real.

00;33;19;15 - Unknown Interviewer: Boring now, you know.

00;33;21;09 - Unknown Interviewee: And you might have been here that time and all that water up. It was I.

00;33;25;01 - Unknown Interviewer: Try to.

00;33;25;25 - Unknown Interviewee: Square up to that bridge row and that they wanted.

00;33;30;02 - Unknown Interviewer: To stand in there. Well, the dam that just broke last year.

00;33;34;16 - Unknown Interviewee: I used to think, well, but that riverside was around, you know, this building went wrong. What would be and it was a roller skating rink. And they had all these with a lot of big name band come there, like, you know, like, cowboy star, Ernest Tubb, those used to come out down at the dam to, and then everybody brush off their to cents, $2 a ticket.

00;34;07;03 - Unknown Interviewee: About one of them big bands. Were there. And Dennis and Jack and all those kids. And I believe that was even there when duty began again. I used to be out there to roller skate. We’d sit and wait for now, the kids don’t have nothing here in the morning.

00;34;27;02 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Delivery for dairy, big bear, the line operation. Yeah.

00;34;34;03 - Unknown Interviewee: There used to be there. Sure. All we had shows every Saturday, I mean, and be a different show integrated. Go to that. And they had divorced when that time I was on.

00;34;46;07 - Unknown Interviewer: Video skating around, you know, and then they’d have to go through that would be more of a bigger Midwest now.

00;34;53;23 - Unknown Interviewee: And, and yeah. But like back east, too much continued on. That was where there was a lot of ice skating. Skiing, man. You didn’t have to go to a ski lodge to go school.

00;35;04;14 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Please sit down for a total I guess.

00;35;07;09 - Unknown Interviewee: You could go to.

00;35;09;05 - Unknown Interviewer: But we had a hospital and that would pay for, where they pay for your stuff or just for stuff? It’s definite. The bill would take care of a.

00;35;18;14 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, now, you know, you’ve been here. They had medical service insurance.

00;35;25;09 - Unknown Interviewer: For her.

00;35;25;24 - Unknown Interviewee: And I don’t know what that hospital was. The doctor’s office building there. When we came in. We don’t have a doctor, and we been down in that hospital office for that. But they had made the renovate.

00;35;38;23 - Unknown Interviewer: And they paid for. The family’s over the roof. Yeah. I wondered, Chris, I was thinking how you had your kids at home, but it says the hospital. But then that situation was different, really, that everybody went to the hospital to have your children, you know, think of it.

00;35;54;02 - Unknown Interviewee: I had Jack and Jim at home. You know, when you come out and offer to go to the gym.

00;36;00;20 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, yeah.

00;36;02;25 - Unknown Interviewee: But you.

00;36;06;25 - Unknown Interviewee: It was like when my mother was having her children. Them women all had their baby. Did nobody ever don’t came through with you?

00;36;17;19 - Unknown Interviewer: What? With your cucumbers, with your kids. You said with. With Jerry’s. With you. Tell me what the dance was. Real smiles. You laughed. Sellers together. Something either real carefully.

00;36;28;20 - Unknown Interviewee: When she was born, she had all these kids from such a hard birth. She weighed 5 pounds and 13oz and locked down to 4 pounds and 13oz. And she had such a high temperature from heartburn, they said, from, you know, coming up against the pelvic and oh, I couldn’t be born, you know, that you got kind of like a brain concussion.

00;36;53;27 - Unknown Interviewee: Her she had a temperature of 108.

00;36;56;20 - Unknown Interviewer: Wow.

00;36;57;15 - Unknown Interviewee: You can just warm up like fish for a long time. Had to give her a bath and olive oil just in the water.

00;37;05;03 - Unknown Interviewer: It says it was cancer. Then I went to just then take it. It was here.

00;37;09;11 - Unknown Interviewee: No. when we came on here, Jeff was 14 against any of them.

00;37;19;11 - Unknown Interviewer: And when you think you were it, it.

00;37;21;15 - Unknown Interviewee: And Judy was only five. She.

00;37;26;12 - Unknown Interviewer: So she really grew up your whole childhood?

00;37;28;29 - Unknown Interviewee: Yeah. She doesn’t remember with, Judy. Therefore, she came in this out here. We and Jim work you the second grade. They came out here.

00;37;42;15 - Unknown Interviewer: Moving as kindergarten. Jerry said that he helped deliver everybody. What are you kids? But that one you want didn’t live? Who didn’t move? Yeah.

00;37;54;17 - Unknown Interviewee: There was. I had Jerry after Judy. He. He was from our age group. Oh, yeah.

00;38;04;16 - Unknown Interviewer: I mean, you know.

00;38;07;13 - Unknown Interviewee: Yeah. Drama and all.

00;38;10;17 - Unknown Interviewer: That’s what he had trouble with. So. Yeah, well, doing that.

00;38;14;25 - Unknown Interviewee: And then of course they didn’t know that.

00;38;16;29 - Unknown Interviewer: Then we are.

00;38;18;12 - Unknown Interviewee: That out here.

00;38;19;01 - Unknown Interviewer: Greater now you can you. Oh you didn’t even know that. oh. Excuse me in mind.

00;38;24;09 - Unknown Interviewee: what was wrong?

00;38;25;15 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, I been so it’s easier to know.

00;38;27;17 - Unknown Interviewee: If they would have known. They could have just changed the front. Because you would have a perfectly otherwise.

00;38;34;01 - Unknown Interviewer: I can. I don’t understand how they change the blood. Is that would. If your body is to produce that kind of food. Just take out the air. The body. Well now they have a soft. They can give you. Yeah. Your body anybody.

00;38;49;07 - Unknown Interviewee: And well I don’t know exactly what have. Come on. No because I don’t follow it too much now. But when they first started doing something about it they. Well, it sounds very negative. When she was pregnant, they checked your blood every month and they say when you get, they can tell when your blood starts changing.

00;39;12;07 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Because you take the antibodies after that move and.

00;39;16;02 - Unknown Interviewee: They would do it for serum. If you are enough. Usually it’s about the eight months and all. They can do it for sharing and they take the baby then. Then it’s all right. They can take it then. So far enough to be.

00;39;31;15 - Unknown Interviewer: You wouldn’t eat. They didn’t even know that. Well, puzzled for a long time. You probably had to play with that blood.

00;39;38;25 - Unknown Interviewee: That’s what they had to say. They were just that just came out during World War Two. Oh, many of the soldiers that would get injured, you know. Well, then they would give them blood transfusions and they would help. Would you die.

00;39;54;23 - Unknown Interviewer: If it was the wrong.

00;39;56;01 - Unknown Interviewee: Yeah. If it was, they might be given a time. But if that one didn’t happen to be longer than they were giving it to a practice, then they would want them to. And when I had them after that, I had one stillbirth to.

00;40;15;15 - Unknown Interviewer: And now with that same RH factor.

00;40;20;11 - Unknown Interviewee: After Jerry died and I didn’t know still then you know what that was. So when you get one more know.

00;40;27;28 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh.

00;40;29;03 - Unknown Interviewee: It was a baby girl. But at eight months I went into labor and, well, what happened is the afterbirth came off before I went into labor and that baby chicken all day, and I thought I was going out of my mind, you know, and I couldn’t figure out what. It just kept going like that. My whole stomach,

00;40;53;23 - Unknown Interviewer: And I didn’t know anything about.

00;40;57;22 - Unknown Interviewee: I never had anything like that happen to me. So I went on about my work, you know, and then I went to bed that night, and, God, the next morning I woke up and I was so sick to my stomach, you know, and I did, and I tried to get out of bed. And when I try to raise up and just like a big weight was on me and all, and finally I managed to get my feet out of bed and get set on my edge, you know?

00;41;22;28 - Unknown Interviewee: And after I couldn’t get my head steady for a while, I could quit working, you know? And I get up on my feet, but I just knew something was wrong. But I didn’t know why. So I decided, well, I get ready to go to the doctor. We had to go back 20 miles on the. And so well and all was back in and I had to go from white leg to an eagle.

00;41;46;11 - Unknown Interviewee: and I was about 20 miles. So I got ready and went over there and.

00;41;52;07 - Unknown Interviewer: The afterbirth had already come on, you know.

00;41;54;22 - Unknown Interviewee: Oh, Craft and Bird came off of you, right? And then all the blood went into you kissing ground, and that baby.

00;42;00;24 - Unknown Interviewer: Over there.

00;42;01;16 - Unknown Interviewee: And that’s why it was just fighting. Always really grounding.

00;42;05;25 - Unknown Interviewer: For three in that.

00;42;08;00 - Unknown Interviewee: Horrible. When you think.

00;42;09;00 - Unknown Interviewer: In my, you don’t know, it’s so weird because it’s like, well, I’ve never had a baby, but, you know, I know how to your body, but you don’t know what’s happened to 110.

00;42;20;16 - Unknown Interviewee: I went to the hospital and then the doctor helped me when I felt that baby there. And I used to go all day yesterday and never quit.

00;42;31;15 - Unknown Interviewer: And then I.

00;42;33;04 - Unknown Interviewee: Had to put me out. Go ahead and take the.

00;42;38;17 - Unknown Interviewer: Whole. Adverse event or so after the folks were there. You didn’t have anywhere to visit. You’re right that once again the search factor got into your blood right.

00;42;50;29 - Unknown Interviewee: See, I had heard before then is before you. Yeah. The more your body builds up against that said.

00;42;58;14 - Unknown Interviewer: Know, as I told me, that after the first one, it’s the power of that.

00;43;02;16 - Unknown Interviewee: Then that’s what they say. But they’re improve or clean.

00;43;07;01 - Unknown Interviewer: For you exceptionally, you know.

00;43;10;07 - Unknown Interviewee: But from then on then I had Jerry died 87. So then I never could find out what was wrong. Oh.

00;43;19;12 - Unknown Interviewer: Really? Long time. Even though there are cubic arch factors. What that mean? It. Dang it. If you still that old.

00;43;27;25 - Unknown Interviewee: Yeah. You know them. And so then you would Last and so one thing. But he ever found brown temperature cool and he wouldn’t have any cold or anything. He put running time fever. Then I’d take him to the doctor and they’d put him in a hot, and they never could find out what was wrong.

00;43;49;26 - Unknown Interviewer: And we just didn’t know.

00;43;51;19 - Unknown Interviewee: And then finally from that, the pool, when all the kids got the flu and then he got that, killed him.

00;43;57;21 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, the flu him.

00;44;00;17 - Unknown Interviewee: But he wasn’t, you know, he probably would have always been something because like he would run on the temperature.

00;44;10;22 - Unknown Interviewer: So anyhow they would fix that up is all the child is older if you’re.

00;44;15;10 - Unknown Interviewee: I don’t know I’m sorry. He. Here. Yeah. I don’t know how long I do, but, you know, this was only her second daughter and that was really bad.

00;44;29;29 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah.

00;44;30;20 - Unknown Interviewee: And they kept it there, and they closed with black. But if he kept it in hospital and.

00;44;36;18 - Unknown Interviewer: You never tried.

00;44;38;15 - Unknown Interviewee: To stick platinum, I didn’t help, but broke home. And I used to deliver the paper to the kids. I went in for one day and she wanted me to be that purple color. That was the control room. It had the purple complexion, home kit.

00;44;59;00 - Unknown Interviewer: Court, be her.

00;45;00;19 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, because of that, and he had to watch it all the time to, show that after they change it blood. They probably have better methods. Now. This is long time ago. Like at grandma. Grandma where she.

00;45;13;06 - Unknown Interviewer: Very high all about dances with the blood. I don’t.

00;45;17;01 - Unknown Interviewee: Know what made it that funny color and.

00;45;19;27 - Unknown Interviewer: I was.

00;45;20;26 - Unknown Interviewee: Horrified when I got it. I didn’t say anything. Course you know. But when I look at my kids and my dad, that scared me to death, I said I would want to. Of that baby can be kept choking all the time on of death. But then it was all right after a while. After a while I thought it must take a while for that blood, you know?

00;45;42;12 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. What? How how they would ever help a child that had lived. Well, because he could be. Really. You could use blood in your whole body like when you big. They just made you take more.

00;45;55;11 - Unknown Interviewee: That’s how you know. Well, but I know that’s what they used to do. Would change all his blood. I think they took the plant and give it time and take point and give it time and, you know, a complete change. and, you know, I think what I can say about when I had that silver thing, I lost so much blood, you know, that they gave me blood for her.

00;46;23;28 - Unknown Interviewee: So it’s a good thing you do with the blood.

00;46;27;00 - Unknown Interviewer: Why would you use a nine year old?

00;46;29;29 - Unknown Interviewee: And we from the plasma, I went right into shock and knew that that whole day after we didn’t freeze to death, we were going to shock.

00;46;48;24 - Unknown Interviewee: That coming with death now, you know. But he was sitting there because he told them he came back up and.

00;46;57;13 - Unknown Interviewer: He this time, when you’re in shock, You lose track of time, you know? I know everything.

00;47;03;12 - Unknown Interviewee: Going on and everything. But had that been whole blood, damn, it would have killed me to plasma. That man.

00;47;12;13 - Unknown Interviewer: You know, like all. Yeah, well, I sure glad he whole blood.

00;47;19;03 - Unknown Interviewee: But even.

00;47;20;04 - Unknown Interviewer: Though we.

00;47;20;28 - Unknown Interviewee: Know better now, you know, that’s where they discovered it. Because all these guys were dying, that they gave me a transfusion.

00;47;28;12 - Unknown Interviewer: They’d have to check that. They’d check the blood and.

00;47;30;11 - Unknown Interviewee: Finally be discovered that that kill one was the same, but one was RH negative and one was very good.

00;47;38;06 - Unknown Interviewer: With the origin. They made it. It was somebody found it mounted. Or is it.

00;47;44;16 - Unknown Interviewee: Really.

00;47;45;07 - Unknown Interviewer: That what it is?

00;47;45;29 - Unknown Interviewee: That’s what they are sure.

00;47;47;28 - Unknown Interviewer: Is was an extreme vetting of those that they found out.

00;47;52;12 - Unknown Interviewee: I don’t know why they the best what it stands for me. Oh, wow. That’s very, very true. And some people have that spectrum and some don’t want them and they take it. And if.

00;48;06;06 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, if you don’t have the fact that it’s negative, then you.

00;48;09;18 - Unknown Interviewee: Don’t have the RH factor thing. they’re just a.

00;48;13;18 - Unknown Interviewer: Complete circle that you black lack.

00;48;16;26 - Unknown Interviewee: That you don’t have, or they have.

00;48;18;11 - Unknown Interviewer: Things that exactly left.

00;48;20;01 - Unknown Interviewee: No, you’re just different things in a different factor in the blood that the other blood does not have brought me.

00;48;28;03 - Unknown Interviewer: There quite a way that I don’t. Did, it think these presentations were referred to, but doing interviews with their, their mom and talking about your work, her before my time, did you do any more work that you volunteered for?

00;48;44;19 - Unknown Interviewee: No, my kids were. That’s when I was having. All my kids were small and nine year old, so yeah, I.

00;48;51;09 - Unknown Interviewer: Where they all born before the war.

00;48;53;17 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, you see, Jim was born in 41, and that was October of 41. And war started December 7th, 41 or 2. So then I had Judy during World War and the war was still going on. And Jerry.

00;49;10;21 - Unknown Interviewer: did, Jerome get drafted.

00;49;13;10 - Unknown Interviewee: You know.

00;49;14;08 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, right.

00;49;14;25 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, he was always he would have been drafted, but he was always deferred because it was a crucial interview.

00;49;24;04 - Unknown Interviewer: Or did many women go to work in the mail because.

00;49;27;10 - Unknown Interviewee: There was a few work down there, but not to foreclose.

00;49;30;11 - Unknown Interviewer: The men did leave.

00;49;32;13 - Unknown Interviewee: There was apparently. Well, there were quite a few men that were gone from there, but they were younger men, you know, when drum was the right age. All right.

00;49;42;09 - Unknown Interviewer: However, it which is important you have you seen your.

00;49;45;05 - Unknown Interviewee: Name held in the Kirby.

00;49;46;24 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, probably because you wouldn’t think it would be necessary. I don’t know, for the war effort. So.

00;49;53;13 - Unknown Interviewee: Yeah, just because of that, you know that he was deferred all the time. So he never did it here.

00;49;59;25 - Unknown Interviewer: That’s the irony. So I was asked to go and shoot people.

00;50;06;29 - Unknown Interviewee: Take one.

00;50;07;29 - Unknown Interviewer: Day. Yeah.

00;50;09;24 - Unknown Interviewee: Oh, come in there from.

00;50;13;19 - Unknown Interviewer: One thing I found out that it was around here that they worked on the basket out here. Sure.

00;50;20;24 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, you know.

00;50;22;06 - Unknown Interviewer: Before we.

00;50;23;01 - Unknown Interviewee: Move, there used to be houses, I guess. All down. Know where that field is. You know that later. Married. And then they were all.

00;50;33;26 - Unknown Interviewer: Put the concentration. Care for them.

00;50;36;01 - Unknown Interviewee: Yeah. I don’t know if they took them all over here and put them in. Okay. I don’t know. Account information. Can. But there was all kinds of Japanese here before we can.

00;50;47;12 - Unknown Interviewer: Order the August from the area.

00;50;49;03 - Unknown Interviewee: There wasn’t any here when we came, but people said that that used to be all houses down in there. And the Japanese, all of that heard there was a lot of Japanese people around.

00;50;59;22 - Unknown Interviewer: So why would you why did they come to this area?

00;51;03;25 - Unknown Interviewee: I don’t know. Oh, no, I think that I think that they they took them from this area and put them in camp.

00;51;10;01 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. See there.

00;51;13;22 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, now some people, like my brother, read what is one of the quaint manor we always call him Red kitchen. That red hair. Now, he was him and my brother here for broken. More World War two.

00;51;31;11 - Unknown Interviewer: They survived.

00;51;33;06 - Unknown Interviewee: yeah. I mean, one never got a scratch, but my brother Red was. And me and herb was in the army. I wouldn’t put them both in the same thing, you know, because they were.

00;51;43;23 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh. Oh, well, so, I don’t know, drink three. But,

00;51;50;13 - Unknown Interviewee: They couldn’t. Both going to the same apartment.

00;51;53;19 - Unknown Interviewer: Maybe just because your brother.

00;51;54;23 - Unknown Interviewee: Usually because they were from Fort Wayne, they couldn’t both be in the same.

00;52;01;19 - Unknown Interviewer: I think you were thinking ahead of the field before that kind of.

00;52;05;10 - Unknown Interviewee: And so my brother read. He thought that he was on a destroyer, and he would talk with the Japanese and, you know, a half of the Navy stuff in one spot. It was right at Pearl Harbor, you know, which most people didn’t know because they team wanted to know that we were that far down, you know, that we would come so close to losing that war.

00;52;33;11 - Unknown Interviewee: And, anyway, they had all these suicide planes that I know you ever heard about in the Caribbean. And, my brother read his, a ship was down ships. He said they just come at you over 100. And he said it was so crazy because those guys, you know, playing cricket left.

00;52;54;12 - Unknown Interviewer: And like crazy. And they knew they.

00;52;56;17 - Unknown Interviewee: Were dying because they crashed right into those ships. And 715.

00;53;01;26 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah.

00;53;02;25 - Unknown Interviewee: And anyway, he said this, this blood was so thick on the ship, they would go from their ship out to the metal ship to try to get the guys off and say, what the could this be? Was LeBron like, yeah, let’s go back. And they had to take they had this big boat, Turkish town, and they had to roll it out ahead of them and crawl on their hands and knees.

00;53;27;16 - Unknown Interviewee: It was so slick. you know, that blood, they couldn’t stand up. And then they’d get them into the lifeboat and then die half of them before they could ever get to that big ship. And all the tiny, crazy suicide planes were coming out. And he says he didn’t know he couldn’t possibly live through that because he said they were falling all around me.

00;53;49;01 - Unknown Interviewee: And just like flying.

00;53;50;14 - Unknown Interviewer: The planes or. Yeah, in.

00;53;52;22 - Unknown Interviewee: The paper dying, you know, where that was hitting them, shooting them. and anyway, he said when they came home and when the war on the border, he used to sit and laugh and laugh and cry and cry and, you know, he was doing it, but he couldn’t stop crying.

00;54;15;00 - Unknown Interviewer: Really.

00;54;15;11 - Unknown Interviewee: He said all the kids were scared to death then made. All right. Yeah. The kids on a ship. But he finally got on right when you got home. He didn’t do that after he got home, but he told that later that he thought he was really going up.

00;54;30;23 - Unknown Interviewer: You know, being from there.

00;54;32;16 - Unknown Interviewee: You crawling on your hands, you know, and like, you know, you and all the wild people dies in action laughing and crying. It’d be like.

00;54;42;22 - Unknown Interviewer: An insane nightmare. All right.

00;54;45;12 - Unknown Interviewee: But, and my other brother, sure, he went. And he had the horrible pictures, but he took over there. That’s where they piled all those Jews up. And he poured burnt. And you know, he’s got pictures of the dead people, that he took em down.

00;55;06;11 - Unknown Interviewer: So he knew about it. But a lot of people in.

00;55;08;12 - Unknown Interviewee: Germany, they.

00;55;09;02 - Unknown Interviewer: Didn’t know that.

00;55;10;03 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, see, they were marching in there and they were running ahead of them. And a lot of times they just called the big fires thing was, try all this before the Americans got in there, too. But he took pictures. When he heard that, he took him down. And the people, there’s cute little kids and everything and their arms and legs is big round.

00;55;33;27 - Unknown Interviewee: You know, their stomachs were great. You know, if they are to there is any bloat in there. Right there. Why don’t. Oh, God. It took a couple.

00;55;44;22 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah.

00;55;45;14 - Unknown Interviewee: He never showed me no pictures till about 3 or 4 years after he’d been left. Called about. May be out of service, you know, and probably war would go over. He couldn’t. But then he showed us how terrible that really graphic.

00;56;01;14 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Cuz I don’t.

00;56;03;21 - Unknown Interviewee: Really want crying. I don’t know if he ever saw that. Let my people go. They come back and it showed always. They had big trunk. They throwing old people in here. The big great big hole was bulldozed and they throw those people down the trough and put them in that big hole. Cover them up.

00;56;21;26 - Unknown Interviewer: Early. Poor, horrible.

00;56;23;06 - Unknown Interviewee: It was all, you know.

00;56;25;02 - Unknown Interviewer: There was everything for the.

00;56;26;22 - Unknown Interviewee: Polish people that they made work on. in their war factories. Yeah. And then they wouldn’t pay the money to starve to death, and then they’d have another whole bunch of them for those in big power. Them not.

00;56;41;02 - Unknown Interviewer: So easily. Yeah. It isn’t. You can’t hardly believe it.

00;56;45;28 - Unknown Interviewee: You weren’t really there.

00;56;47;15 - Unknown Interviewer: And I like to think that since women give birth to children, that they wouldn’t want to do that kind of killing. You leave the word from the dead. But who don’t?

00;56;56;24 - Unknown Interviewee: I can’t understand that. But I it and like my brother that read did that and then he really thought he was going crazy. Crazy. Did he just sit there and laugh, laugh and cry and kind of did enjoy doing it? But he couldn’t.

00;57;12;14 - Unknown Interviewer: Stop? Yeah, probably because his nerves.

00;57;15;18 - Unknown Interviewee: Were so bad sequencing all that, that he just got to the point where he couldn’t. It’s a good thing that was over. He probably would have went in insane, you know, from there.

00;57;27;01 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah.

00;57;27;26 - Unknown Interviewee: Because I think your body and mind can just take on much horror and then you just can’t.

00;57;34;15 - Unknown Interviewer: You can’t eat anything real horrible happen like that, you know.

00;57;38;24 - Unknown Interviewee: No, you.

00;57;39;13 - Unknown Interviewer: Either. You. I’m lucky you.

00;57;41;09 - Unknown Interviewee: You’re him telling you those things you said. You can imagine what it’s like having all those planes coming down. And all along he said it was so crazy. They were just laugh and,

00;57;55;04 - Unknown Interviewer: I don’t see how they could train.

00;57;56;22 - Unknown Interviewee: Those Japanese to be. Well.

00;58;00;25 - Unknown Interviewer: I probably they have a whole different culture way of looking at things. Could be thought for a country I don’t know, I yeah, well, that is the way they did it.

00;58;09;11 - Unknown Interviewee: And, they were taught to be happy to die for their country readers.

00;58;16;26 - Unknown Interviewer: But it was so I can’t imagine anyone thinking that way. I wouldn’t.

00;58;20;24 - Unknown Interviewee: You know, it’s hard for me to think that you you could get in there a point and know you were going to certain death and dive right into those ships.

00;58;29;11 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah, you were killing other telling people. Well, thank you, family of you. You were too affected out here. Are you in Idaho? They did they watch for production?

00;58;40;11 - Unknown Interviewee: No, We didn’t. The war was over when we came back.

00;58;44;13 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, 40. No.

00;58;46;08 - Unknown Interviewee: It was over. And for you, what?

00;58;47;24 - Unknown Interviewer: It was going,

00;58;49;20 - Unknown Interviewee: The and I, I think me down on the coast and stuff where the workers were. And you’d be seeing more of that.

00;58;58;09 - Unknown Interviewer: Or if you wanted people.

00;59;00;24 - Unknown Interviewee: Right back over for years before that, when there were talked about the war experience before they could. Yeah. And then after that along, well.

00;59;14;20 - Unknown Interviewer: Your parents moved out here. They came and you said it was.

00;59;18;28 - Unknown Interviewee: In 42.

00;59;20;24 - Unknown Interviewer: So once a year. So the twins say they were fascinated with, you know, they came over here, went to school.

00;59;27;04 - Unknown Interviewee: And married.

00;59;28;00 - Unknown Interviewer: To their.

00;59;28;24 - Unknown Interviewee: Friends. Congratulations. They were 18. We had to go right in the war. but it’s.

00;59;34;27 - Unknown Interviewer: oh had an excuse to have.

00;59;37;22 - Unknown Interviewee: They didn’t have any choice. They were drafted right into that service as soon as they turned 18.

00;59;44;09 - Unknown Interviewer: Three and the Oregon. So you tried to figure it out?

00;59;52;07 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, yeah. But it’s you know, it’s hard for you to think of. Well, you’ve been worth my life, but then I think that involves the whole country.

01;00;04;18 - Unknown Interviewee: You know, these other wars haven’t been, now, Jack was a little bit more, but, he was on a destroyer in Maine back in 1952. And, that was when the Korean War was over.

01;00;25;27 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. That’s what you said about you.

01;00;28;01 - Unknown Interviewee: No, no, no, he said that they had been destroyed or took ship for our ships and they would go into the coast, the short a Korean and blow up, like, oil. stockpiles and things like that. And that one time they just went off shift and the next front because it went in and took their ship or dump.

01;00;54;04 - Unknown Interviewer: All you really was looking for. I really got my more.

01;00;57;18 - Unknown Interviewee: But then he came back to this.

01;00;59;08 - Unknown Interviewer: Place.

01;00;59;23 - Unknown Interviewee: And he. Yeah, was like, my brother read to them too. They’d have to go find those islands, you know, when they put those over here and they’d take the ships and go foreign. He kept the Japanese one for, of course, and they were shooting as they were coming ashore. And so they just fell all around. And but he never.

01;01;22;16 - Unknown Interviewer: Ever was here because one of the things we wondered out of some people read it and some people didn’t know we got, I think.

01;01;31;13 - Unknown Interviewee: That one time again when they went ashore, I don’t know what column that was on that one. Which one at work that they went ashore on. And he said that when they go ashore and got done shooting the Japanese, that they program up like caught with a long offshore.

01;01;57;10 - Unknown Interviewer: Stack before that kind of communication.

01;02;01;02 - Unknown Interviewee: I don’t know why you pile them all up like that. And they came down in a big trench and dumped them all into what could it? But he was just telling me they can’t believe it. The amount of people that was killed, I guess, you know, you read in the paper and stuff, but he said if you were to have to be there any one time.

01;02;22;14 - Unknown Interviewee: They went ashore and they took care of local Japanese, you know, they wouldn’t surrender. Japanese never would surrender. You know, they let down and, I don’t think they ever would have surrendered if it hadn’t been for those H-bomb states over here. that was the.

01;02;43;13 - Unknown Interviewer: First thing.

01;02;44;09 - Unknown Interviewee: That happened. That was the only thing that made them worry about. They would never give up just fine if they wouldn’t. They had something like that. I don’t think they would ever give up until the last one more time. But anyway, they went ashore this time and they had been there. They had to take their stuff in, and they’d have to go through all these caves and get them out of there.

01;03;06;05 - Unknown Interviewee: Otherwise they’d shoot them when they went to sleep or something. You know, so they’d have to go in and clean out all these caves to make sure it was no more on them. And they would come off. They would tell them, you know, I’m going to surrender. And come out, and they wouldn’t even do it. So then they throw a grenade in there.

01;03;26;10 - Unknown Interviewer: For you.

01;03;27;21 - Unknown Interviewee: And they’d throw a grenade in there one time. And outcome this little kid stagger and all the after and all the rest were dead in that this one kid come staggering out and they had to take their kids with them. A little boy and one time this woman that she. Me.

01;03;46;17 - Unknown Interviewer: Let me go over to them, put.

01;03;48;28 - Unknown Interviewee: Them down to the shore.

01;03;50;25 - Unknown Interviewer: To get rid of them. And they hollered.

01;03;53;14 - Unknown Interviewee: At her, I’m called channel. And she wouldn’t. And she kept right on coming in here. She was kind of baby in her arm, and she had one hand behind her. So when she got pretty close to him, she wouldn’t hold they or and she had a hand grenade thrown in amongst them. She was going to walk up to them and try.

01;04;17;12 - Unknown Interviewee: And then they had this baby.

01;04;20;00 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh baby, there’s.

01;04;21;20 - Unknown Interviewee: No.

01;04;22;13 - Unknown Interviewer: Better care of the baby.

01;04;23;16 - Unknown Interviewee: Where they had to take it along with them. So they come very.

01;04;29;24 - Unknown Interviewer: Nice to go.

01;04;30;15 - Unknown Interviewee: To hell with it. Yeah. And it was so funny. None of them would ever do well. They had to kill him. Because when they’d come to kind of take and stuff, they just hoped to stay in there. So they throw Canadian and you couldn’t walk in, you know, because it was a horror. We couldn’t see what was in there.

01;04;56;05 - Unknown Interviewee: They didn’t know whether they had machine guns or some of them did. Yeah. And they would shoot at it.

01;05;03;08 - Unknown Interviewer: Incomprehensible. But I don’t think it could ever be together.

01;05;07;23 - Unknown Interviewee: You know, they. I don’t I don’t think, I don’t think, I think it was I think they all all think of.

01;05;21;28 - Unknown Interviewer: I mean.

01;05;22;15 - Unknown Interviewee: I think.

01;05;22;29 - Unknown Interviewer: They were.

01;05;23;21 - Unknown Interviewee: Them, they just captured or pulled in to and made a mark in there and that’s it.

01;05;30;09 - Unknown Interviewer: Mama. And what I do know.

01;05;34;03 - Unknown Interviewee: They just kept working until they’d get so skinny. You know, they when you see them an image or burn them up, they’d starve to death. And some of them, they took him to be, camp and told.

01;05;47;17 - Unknown Interviewer: Them he to keep either.

01;05;50;15 - Unknown Interviewee: I hope I’m not scared you that to death. No, I’d be scared to death over years ago. But this this really true thing that.

01;05;59;24 - Unknown Interviewer: Was in 45.

01;06;01;19 - Unknown Interviewee: Yeah. Oh 41 I believe it was over and all the 45.

01;06;06;19 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. Because then very soon after the war, my sister was born. In a while we did, the 51 I was in the second round, the baby boom. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So you guys had been married for a few years over for a kid? Is. Oh, I hope I don’t have to live through anything like that.

01;06;35;18 - Unknown Interviewee: But I hope not. But if they ever have another one, it’d be worth me being married. Probably. But they have nowadays. It’s.

01;06;42;23 - Unknown Interviewer: It’s strange, the stuff they have now that I’ve grown up knowing. Like I don’t plan ahead for more than five years because I just had this idea in my mind that everything he doesn’t blow up do you think like that, that it could just,

01;06;56;18 - Unknown Interviewee: Oh, well, I think the reason that there’s got to be going on here, maybe.

01;07;03;17 - Unknown Interviewer: in World War two.

01;07;05;00 - Unknown Interviewee: Depending, yeah, that that was another war. You can’t get around that. Look how exciting. All right, I know I was required to read the old oil price.

01;07;20;10 - Unknown Interviewer: To.

01;07;21;10 - Unknown Interviewee: Right now. And. If those Arab countries don’t get the United States, the oil, they’re going to think of military as you.

01;07;36;18 - Unknown Interviewer: So, man, like the Kissinger like, how did you say I didn’t do you say that again? But supposedly he’s all these talks of peace, but he’s the first one to mow this thread, so there’ll be war over that. So why don’t.

01;07;51;18 - Unknown Interviewee: They cut off?

01;07;54;13 - Unknown Interviewer: This. I was asking for it to put the idea in their hands.

01;08;00;05 - Unknown Interviewee: Because they have all this terrible stuff for, well, that bomb that they put on Japan where they were nothing compared to what you have now. And look what that first tried.

01;08;17;11 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. It’s so calming. All that stuff and then all the money that they’ve done killing things and then I’m sure this money would have spent on things like, ABC or food stamps, do they raise the price of food stamps. So they do that.

01;08;34;12 - Unknown Interviewee: So well or, Look at when we have a war. What I can understand, they go over there and they blow all these countries like Japan to bits, and then they only ever take government, build them all up in other countries. And they’re they’re practically the top one of them. Is in this economy and stuff. They put all those factories in there.

01;09;04;09 - Unknown Interviewee: They give them all that fat. Go ask the Japanese on practically everything up there.

01;09;12;09 - Unknown Interviewer: Really? yeah.

01;09;13;19 - Unknown Interviewee: That, balances, paternal orders and things and that, who is the big meal up there?

01;09;22;28 - Unknown Interviewer: And if it weren’t for oil.

01;09;24;22 - Unknown Interviewee: Yeah, yeah. And they’re all gone to Japan.

01;09;28;23 - Unknown Interviewer: I think it’s crazy. There is exchange for oil there. They’re trading nuclear, information. Yeah. Like putting them oh. So crazy. And there should be more valuable things than bombs. They could do bombs in Tehran.

01;09;48;02 - Unknown Interviewee: And it just shaped what it is now. It’s so crazy mixed up that you can’t even sort it out. Yeah. I mean, they’ll tell you, like, you know. Oh, yeah. Big and gas shortage or the big gas shortage. Then, you know, when it comes to creation time, it did. Now everybody go on your vacation. Just go plan your trip.

01;10;06;21 - Unknown Interviewee: Go to plan. There’s plenty of gas. And then they were making them stay open Sunday. Can’t get on our where the hell did it all come from all of a sudden? If it was so short just the week before, then they got the place up where they wanted it, then there was enough then. Now they’re hollering again. Honestly, now they’re talking again, quoting another 9 or $0.10 on it.

01;10;29;08 - Unknown Interviewee: So I think it’s just some kind of a big political gimmick. Crap. Yeah. And then there’s sugar. Now, you know, there’s there’s sugar in all the stores, all you can buy if you got enough money to buy it.

01;10;40;07 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah, that for sure wasn’t a.

01;10;42;10 - Unknown Interviewee: Real no added sugar last summer was $5 and something for that. not 13.5 up to $14. Yeah. It’s now slowly dropping a little bit more.

01;10;56;29 - Unknown Interviewer: More. But powdered sugar or commercial pilot as a kind.

01;11;03;20 - Unknown Interviewee: Well, brown sugar I buy that to bake with a mango dollar $0.44 for 3 pounds or 2 pounds. I don’t know which one.

01;11;12;22 - Unknown Interviewer: It is, just reduced like they the price of it is. No, a little bit. They think it’s better, but really it’s still a lot higher than one.

01;11;21;17 - Unknown Interviewee: It’s just getting ridiculous and close. Great.

01;11;28;03 - Unknown Interviewer: And I don’t buy clothes because over.

01;11;32;06 - Unknown Interviewee: Blouses you’re going to store you need to pay like $5 or $20 for blouse 1416 to go.

01;11;41;29 - Unknown Interviewer: You haven’t shop for clothes recently.

01;11;45;17 - Unknown Interviewee: I took the train down my well, I’m doing coke.

01;11;49;09 - Unknown Interviewer: Can you see the coke?

01;11;51;05 - Unknown Interviewee: So I took him down and that’s where we were.

01;11;54;02 - Unknown Interviewer: Oh, if you had a shopping.

01;11;56;26 - Unknown Interviewee: And I had a lot prettier coke, I thought, take it up. They want it. And, chemical was $36 on sale. You know, they’re having all the sale. Oh.

01;12;09;14 - Unknown Interviewer: After Christmas.

01;12;10;06 - Unknown Interviewee: January sale and truly were $48. And then they marked it down to 38. Now, then.

01;12;22;13 - Unknown Interviewer: They kind of left.

01;12;23;25 - Unknown Interviewee: You know, they’re not that good. A couple put.

01;12;28;03 - Unknown Interviewer: There seems like that’s a fashion amount function. But I think where.

01;12;33;20 - Unknown Interviewee: You are beginning the year, I want to get them a good blow. Yeah.

01;12;38;23 - Unknown Interviewer: It’s hard to find.

01;12;39;12 - Unknown Interviewee: What you can’t find a good on. It could have like 40%. Well but then they got that Donald laminated back on. I mean.

01;12;48;00 - Unknown Interviewer: You did come to order.

01;12;50;28 - Unknown Interviewee: And most of the quotes are those notes and very fabric. You can’t you ain’t going with one. No.

01;12;58;12 - Unknown Interviewer: And then one side and then half for.

01;13;04;23 - Unknown Interviewer: The same technique of course.

01;13;06;26 - Unknown Interviewee: That’s

01;13;09;07 - Unknown Interviewer: Yeah. It’s. So this month I get it now before I did buy these. Yeah. There you go.

01;13;22;20 - Unknown Interviewee: Tell her about the war years.

01;13;25;21 - Unknown Interviewer: And he called and said, I’ll take every word you said. Oh, yeah. He was grateful was the safe. He wouldn’t let us use any of this stuff. The presentation. If you want your name withheld or better. Yeah, I you know what you name is a page I should read. This read is 45. Oh, I know I have, the head of the great proposal.

01;13;57;10 - Unknown Interviewer: Weird kid, divided class. Do you think we should make a release form? So they can use the information to give them a copy of the form? I think you will be wrong. We can sue someone. They did. Someone said yes to you for. For real? Good.

01;14;14;05 - Unknown Interviewee: Are you taking some classes?

01;14;16;03 - Unknown Interviewer: No, I just do this. But, I do, I really I’ve been doing real good getting cut through here for a show. the fourth grade. Fourth grade. We will continue. Yeah. There’s a new shop in town. you know, Michael. Theater.

01;14;37;17 - Unknown Interviewee: The.