Antonio (Tony) H. Rodriguez Oral History Interview Audio

00:00:00:00 - Patricia McDaniel: Okay. Today I will interview Antonio Edmondson with Regas of Nampa, Idaho. He lives at 1704 First Street South, Nampa. Today’s date is November the 5th, 1991. My name is Patricia McDaniel.

00:00:29:16 - Patricia McDaniel: Louisiana principal of immigration, the supermini. I will see you step with a recall that KTLA one news. When do we know social media is defined? Is is don’t only vigneron.

00:00:45:20 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: When up and running. Okay. Gavin is employed at home. Both dogs and me. Familiar chaos case me maybe how well the parties in me mama and then peanut in vino Espana. pero auditorium for record of K and I mean, Espana and no through the party with me. L is the México vino México. Hierarchy of social media.

00:01:24:06 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: For I, for more email audio cientos. Second, they say great. See? Not bothered me.

00:01:34:21 - Patricia McDaniel: Papa can be so.

00:01:36:15 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Elvis. Well, no, Kevin is. You know me as well. the mail window.

00:01:48:18 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: The the YouTube music. Conocimiento. Where are Como yo quiero. See, when you get the vamos a calm city, Texas in completo. Chico. Yeah. You if with on the me my mom audio and me no is him to the cinco is you’re the near I think when you move out. Yeah he move up. yeah. This plenty me well eso local see the the funerals and, this would be that comes to Iran.

00:02:34:25 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Cuidado for me. And also from my mother, Lita, you know, with Luisa Guerra. Gomez. Luisa there. I won’t miss you to remove Chrissy. and let me know is here to the movie me. Well, pastor. Well, we are Casa con la senora Maria Rodriguez, Maria Selena Rodriguez, and so so so that we will. There are enough removal. Rancho.

00:03:15:04 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I own Rancho and bathroom there. My wife, Henry Skinner. He. Yeah. You Komsomol. Yeah. Chris here is to vamos a year study that this is yet Daniels will be no we his three days here. They. Yeah. Me no a simple three days yet. for sure. For countries that in Rancho see me what the other can play Ramos.

00:03:45:15 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: But But, Pueblo. I was glad that our he was at the camera, you know, he, otro model. Yeah. Feeling la familia. Your local stadium was I, you know, era, so, you know, okay. no removal for low income dramas. Mucho sushi and corn city, Texas. Carnage city. Thanks. A encontramos mucho, sobre Los trabajo. Mucho discrimination.

00:04:18:18 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And is it the ample, we, trabajo over now to see I’m mother and seek is equal. Como your application. Entrada is who you have been. Yeah. This is see at the end, you. Trabajar to Nestle in and senor with cuenta you my career. You. Pueblo con la senora into India. The application is the regular la entrada.

00:04:53:28 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: They move Army newcomer of law a defense he the loss as he has the means of mucho vuitton church of see what patrones. Yeah. No, you’re not here on the run to e get a look and get out is. No, no. When cuando cuando ya no Salim where as can be my father the court. Yeah. Aquino know now wins cake okay.

00:05:22:21 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yeah love a thin the lino the Levantine languages I study vamos the metro. La tenemos capacitor Kerala stamina depression. We run the esta cuando se or la el mas. Jeremias.

00:05:43:04 - Patricia McDaniel: This go for good?

00:05:45:08 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I’ll miss the great. The command Iraqi commandos Como la 1000 or something. My ese. pretty whole. Come what this he he. Yes, I tenemos mucho. the name of the name of the. You know what? Holidays he lost and ground mucho herding también the he lives the democracy that, Where to do that, man? No, no, no.

00:06:22:19 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Estrella. I’m of la la la la entrada. There. Enough quarrel with you on the seller Cocina. The market. the name of, I think it’s pretty cool, pop. you up on this is that the say you alphabet your yellow let apathy. Today I popped up, we went the. E cuando vamos k k. But no must not.

00:06:54:09 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: No podemos scuola.

00:06:57:29 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Okay. Tenemos trabajar to proceed to tempo. You know what the drama is when I kill the Como Rita Como? Yeah. In noviembre wave of the new movie. But primero that febrero all of the el the todo el patron career of what almost us la Sierra la preparar la mirada. Imagine that was on the El Mallarmé.

00:07:25:20 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: But on the. Of course he doesn’t. He knows. What. No, no tenemos in there on a musket I knew. I don’t know if I knew right when the same those early cuando the limo when the lady. Holy. Okay, okay. Queria lose control. Hopefully a key way you’ll be momentarily discrimination. Riva, the then, the Parisian caviar tanto.

00:07:54:13 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: No, no. Yeah. That’s okay. So maybe, that’s the the winner was girl occupation student at the university. Name University. Oh, no. We knew. Okay. We are for Mario Merman. You, Or you can l. Why? You okay? No BrahMos part Texas I the I k I know the cinema got now in cuenta de la la la la which I which is cuando secondary venue heater.

00:08:33:23 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Then after forever all other VR place anymore. Okay. And obviously you must get lost the seesaw and OnDemand. Okay. Evelyn, there is a corn seed. Texas.

00:08:51:25 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I will yeah. Ramos here.

00:08:55:05 - Patricia McDaniel: In first.

00:08:55:29 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And far. Is Logan Nuevo. See you see you know this the from down hint by one of our house which is now order also us for the until this is, home stress order. He got now almost under la. You know the full looking sale. Well, what the where in Iraq of it in our homes. Yeah. And at the end of this essay in there, only Silvia, my wife.

00:09:33:06 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: But we’re not Iraqi l so I, I am not comedy but guaranteeing in Yeti a little study will occur. When are you a and this was a wonderful moment. What impetus on YouTube for that. Get the remote Hasina of India or you must get an Idaho needs Italian throw a But but Well, me. L quit in Ethiopian.

00:10:09:24 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Quit in that cuando in here better known for the paramount but need more aspect. What you gave me within me with a razor. Me this Lacombe though me of, maybe Camino. Pedro equal to so we when when el and Buenos trabajadores historical still in for I up with him some, but we just better to be with him because.

00:10:43:26 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: It may la palabra voy who may be okay. See, see is it kids the same because El tri. What means they. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Regalo me. Well, fine. I don’t a good message until the Sally read every movie. Vamos. yes. I’m Osaki in my. You in. And I know I was, Abilene state and minimum since quarantine you.

00:11:16:16 - Patricia McDaniel: Eco moving here on.

00:11:17:17 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: In your thesis conceito. If I could recover yes or no where in my your face. Come to my your face. Is there a couple of.

00:11:31:24 - Patricia McDaniel: Things you get on in in, in. No. De la promedio.

00:11:37:00 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yes. Vamonos a la con la con. virtual academy with know a panel. Even m with Como can be say a convention is another. The.

00:11:51:20 - Patricia McDaniel: platform media.

00:11:53:02 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Look, Emilia. See? Okay, okay. Una de la mere only command. Okay. Then there. My movie, your mama. No movie or, you know, places that movie. Aura and and Coolio. Primero good deal. Because when, you of those movie name of Mira by me mother Astra you know, say so lemme your examples. it’s the year Ramos happy community will come.

00:12:27:22 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Will say that the you you comenzamos logo logo trabajo aqui. And you know, yeah. A tourism Wilson in Aberdeen, Idaho. Aberdeen. I eat and Segundo the, Yeah. The state agency and Tito also in your mother George Inskeep be no it read okay can down the hotels are equal one though I love to know about you know, a rundown of the land and I see I’m one love Pendleton’s book is the Bienvenidos pregunta era in Rome, Qatar living.

00:13:08:21 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: It’s in operation in LA. Gaga and I wrote my movie, this episode, and, and I was Ferro from El Falcon was equal. Who touches in intro any Latino? It was not necessary, ma’am. Was controversial in life. Econo guru. I also in the. Ghetto you one was in and scenario support of that of Papa. But let me win this okay otro the affluent and also the as we have the father Cinco vamos list.

00:13:49:24 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Is he Eloy? What? Vienna. Leon, aka Como de la casa de la manana. Yeah. No. See, Joel. Super. So, you know, you want to run? Yeah. Okay. Go in the house on the Papa and Indian. Yeah. Ethan. Yen. luckily, no. Abram Hopper. La. Yeah. No, no, they papa eat. Will la. Papa, Papa for people. You tell us.

00:14:15:22 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Coochie us para la papa Isla la quarter in quarter in that much Chandler. Newcastle. Okay. The a our homes that our homes all the when one of us in okay at our school Stella series e yeah we and and as with accounting my you know I mean you know covet. What they say is is here for this is here at Museo.

00:14:48:16 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I’m also pro think of all the plata for best for the Plaza Gallery. Know the following day. Let’s it out of the drama. I mean, more than not. Have we all hooked for that form? People follow the Idaho you know and hope it’ll be on my hotspot. M okay, you know, I see what is here’s in the in or our house this for Tyler a month.

00:15:20:13 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: You long. Yeah. So we are currently one only 234 equals zero. No no no. My.

00:15:32:07 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: When I want them sweaters. Bengals. Thoughts on that part in a remote de Niro Eva okay I don’t know. See dunagan the middle tanto. Go to that.

00:15:48:24 - Patricia McDaniel: But yeah. So again.

00:15:50:25 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yeah okay. Ryan McMillan playing with the toy channel and Zeta I don’t know when I’m getting all yeah, go through the. Yeah. Mobile. Okay. The name of team is compromised 019 senor. When the storm was began to camera, Herman Klemperer era Lehman. Yeah. Moriarity at the the. I’ll come the vitamin E someone Brathwaite. La familia he comes Hamilton.

00:16:28:11 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Sarah moon. When in everything. yeah. This is good in the hospital pharmacovigilance. I would get them to see if they roller me. What bomb went off? Play. You almost, in Noida can be helpful. Man was found this whole in his accuracy almost all movie in loving physical. certainly so la India Peruvian trabajo. This will suddenly absolve the mistakes when.

00:16:59:17 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yes, he knows who was in the who was explaining. Epoch one those alcohol in the psyche. The vitamin. This is your up. You siendo the. There has not been. And now that is opening. Is they come over in North Thomas in South America. Very young Scott Walker. Stanley. Okay. Bueno. Media. See, it’s the personal news. Trabajo del del verano in all your volume.

00:17:38:00 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: The case of your fold and the papa, the then del y.

00:17:47:13 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: The trabajo in Las okay Rana. So Colonia e conseguimos eat our humble stores and in Vietnam and that, if you the can have it most quite and on the fence I think for some for now or if there are mutual moon to be narrow combat on the on the animals. Okay. A yak peso for both sides of your very me miss readings then services militar 19 mean no is interest but insiders.

00:18:29:06 - Patricia McDaniel: Members a request that I it’s a moment of nutrition to so viviendo I in everything in Como vivir on in guys una endeavor or conference Castle.

00:18:42:00 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: No. And senor and BBVA varies depending on what is the general allowed. What is the pero cuando ya otros trabajo in the savannah north can be found in the park. I’m interested in the movie Control in control. Of course. We need a cuatro. Me a. A volume that all video movie.

00:19:12:07 - Patricia McDaniel: Para la for me.

00:19:13:04 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: But but no, no, no, you’re so Apache. You’re. You afterwork us out. pero yo this. I will perform the. I, fell in love. So, father, they are stuck in finally. So when we go, you know about the era before he. Yes. Even with cuando komsomol trabajar in the in, and in Vietnam, the condom is beautiful.

00:19:38:05 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: He put his former the lantern music together. Yeah. This won’t be the end.

00:19:42:26 - Patricia McDaniel: No, no.

00:19:44:12 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: No, no, this isn’t any of my ultra special on the online install. Okay, VCR era not we are reproaches. New year. the station this I in my left.

00:20:02:02 - Patricia McDaniel: Stated that in history.

00:20:04:05 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: He went carefree. He l no era and no era for the child might have another on the el mismo salio is a possibility. Yeah. That’s why nobody seems to familia. Yeah. Yaki. Yes. I found for me to narrow my view. The Camino go party at the party in the fire. You’re still in vigor.

00:20:30:10 - Patricia McDaniel: Even poco de la comunidad in Aberdeen are. We are not crazy Spanish, then Spanish, you know.

00:20:37:10 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: No, no, we have, no, we, can walk in these here in the barrio or nothing. Are we are for Hispanic. Given I trabajar. we are very well no mas those familia zai. Okay. Yes. Our males, i.e. the women who come to your church to put on. He made us get on. The senora wanted to El Mercado.

00:21:05:23 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: He he lost. Okay. You’re familia spider Longoria. That put him want warm water with a woman. The heat of pero Syria a nosotros we animals nos vamos. Yeah. And you know, since. What is that? You know, in where will you, in quarantine. Will you go I don’t yeah. Those who must familias is Iran. Is it because I’m in oh I see, I see.

00:21:41:09 - Patricia McDaniel: I, I read census.

00:21:42:21 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I left.

00:21:43:04 - Patricia McDaniel: Them to see okay documentaries I seven vamos Como orange después de Trafford. in everything cuando when do it on vision. this was you guys going to principles and I think in in everything to make sure that the crunchy.

00:22:04:21 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Bueno we Minnesota-Duluth going thumbs up down foreign in terms of it not not ours custom browse they eat nosotros Como. Well you see on the weekends I eat on a cantina, I eat everything, the rest of the, you know. Okay. Tomando personal opinion with this or that. Pero si no version of. Okay. Damn.

00:22:31:27 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: We never eat on my part. Diabetes, Conejos or burritos? Pachamama. It’s always one of the almost. I can’t be a so. So they don’t know why we, And they say tiempo novena Iglesia Catholic. Okay. One of them is in them on health is in literally human man Noria S11 throw a year to Como el yan movie Amazon either.

00:22:58:10 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: No thoughts. Control me. No cientos improve the Camino cientos of sin from Wednesday or whatever I.

00:23:08:08 - Patricia McDaniel: Say.

00:23:09:18 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Nothing to say. Come on, see where he lives. I don’t know, I say your I a papa. The. Halfway there you the the Pocatello you will be. No. Luis won’t even know where you live. Okay. Area of the city? Yakima only. I want to sit down there. Monica. Okay. I move down there. Income after one needs of that water you want to get, is to the middle of the buy into that.

00:23:44:04 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I ain’t mucho, homie. No money and not negotiable. The security, daddy. so you don’t know what. Oh.

00:23:52:14 - Patricia McDaniel: So then when you go.

00:23:54:06 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: To the old.

00:23:55:21 - Patricia McDaniel: Girl answers, no.

00:23:56:19 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: No. Yeah, you probably don’t know. See, your class is giving. You have no.

00:24:02:12 - Patricia McDaniel: Idea.

00:24:02:28 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: What is why? You know, I told you some of the scholars, Dumbo, some of a tampoco. No Avila. Pero cuando era, then Los element is a key era in the near me. No, I come here as the discrimination. No, no my loan happiness. I was in useful. Good. Okay. Better. They don’t like what is okay to sit on your cellphone tower Nike if you cannot so that man.

00:24:36:27 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: But of all of them. But your we won’t know okay. Opinion discrimination. What but primero ito todo lo science on the penny NFP is the kidnaper opinion I see no no deals with me. He cannot. No negative, no indios promises no parece as expecting them. He yakisoba trabajando your. Yeah you lower vedere cuando me having man. May the grande the same.

00:25:11:18 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: But Olga I want do you want not enough. You stop, I end up I collegio I just quella and, w the rando government in, political science and, in, five different classes was a pain, for me. And then there me there was a key and Mr.. To do the weather video, a video open.

00:25:39:25 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I’m a few on dependiendo esta.

00:25:45:11 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Aqui the cookie or el and, el la viviendo. Where then the mexicano the lean with came and hit me in. So.

00:26:01:14 - Patricia McDaniel: Entonces I see you stiff where.

00:26:04:15 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: alimony.

00:26:05:04 - Patricia McDaniel: Alimony I think in canyon.

00:26:07:06 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Well means is but in de cinco. Yeah, yeah. The thing the line you.

00:26:11:20 - Patricia McDaniel: Seen Ultimo they.

00:26:13:26 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: See no yellow zero. Yes. If you are gonna see if the you you seen my video with have the good down you estaba and Bremerhaven in no no Remo haven’t won the Virginia estaba in do emotion and yes rather than normally the del completo. There is a new Jersey in Waterstones. Yeah partially one it.

00:26:45:23 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yeah thousands and work on November will again. Yeah. Oh no. would you judges got that. They will still say I don’t get along with a lot of it. It’s a, it took me, you know, 3000 and video they logo Como. No. for those years but that I was. I love Araki’s he no longer they don’t, reinforce any comments.

00:27:18:22 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I don’t, I don’t know if you’ve been off to Seattle and LA least have a, Como Como additional. la versus the past combination peacekeeping peacekeeping forces to you don’t component and so they they get them. You must some of us you know have a role. Yes. But even more muchos you almost cinco mean in Barco in.

00:27:52:13 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: We were more in Moscow metal for prior. Okay, I okay from then in in Linea Konya. You almost like there school on there we are cuatro Cinco. Somebody say he did nothing? Never. I just Como colonels to you, Dawson. He went on to be on in record and the two of us Pacific. If they want to do with, Europe theater two Pacific point to play local news report piano.

00:28:28:07 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Your your own amigo quit. I’m sorry, Lieutenant. Pacific play. I mean by people. There’s always seat loss here. But then also have young kid down to LA or you know, so we end up. Oh yeah little yellow hello minus we the end to me not only Nikita because I bill that there was a reason was a lot in la France.

00:28:55:25 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And the higher when I did with some of what you are doing was Como bring to the community chat on for you. Yeah. Ye this is. Yes. This place.

00:29:09:09 - Patricia McDaniel: Is good.

00:29:10:06 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: So you know saga Roxy Los Mohammed via Los Dias process. Yes. But I keep in that world.

00:29:18:27 - Patricia McDaniel: And it was open.

00:29:21:02 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Or to no meaning no still a good the circuit logo science Como Como una new intimacies you.

00:29:32:21 - Patricia McDaniel: Know in France.

00:29:34:03 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: No no no no alimony in England and France. You know muscle mass quantum.

00:29:39:15 - Patricia McDaniel: He this the alimony of because you are.

00:29:43:02 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: To you and I’m passing c e.

00:29:47:29 - Patricia McDaniel: other unpopular they should travel so Latin discrimination. Oh do you.

00:29:54:29 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Oh why no cuando cuando yo you again I put us Urania con call me meant is the corundum. He meant it in. In the studio get you career Eucharist two. You queria you square la you queria put in their minds your me move me. Me analyst Sabah me me more. They’ve been side in negocio Skyhawk area seven. Okay.

00:30:27:14 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: You’re no longer the, as the, Corey. He for LA felt guilt. You better all tempo to the un grande. Como la in in English. Eager to go learn you. He’s him a the same it’s man consider your okay cuando yo quando you get key communism also you insult those aren’t essential is the reason we need that okay we the search out in Fort Lewis Washington state.

00:31:09:00 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: okay. You are where it could bill bill of rights. You know the for the military men to fight, a school circus, class is doing a. Yeah. Good carry over that face him.

00:31:30:23 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Okay. When know you perceive what a people give that Chicago. You only have them. Is Bowser a guy? He was there Como the Quincy minuto. That’s the it. Quiero q me this give me thank get all know zero okay thing will Basie losses Mrs.. In order the metal okay cuando hemos firma but, but we siendo a number of muertos grito queen type riding.

00:32:02:15 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: You honor me. Nombre aqui for me, Pablo. You have Senor Cuba. The numb to the me also who nombre and millenia. Yeah. If you can walk by me. Okay. Tenia venita toll by Washington DC. Yeah. Regular low key enrollment that a friend of Pedro Como. Other old Salvadoran noticias gay commission process. Is that why Uganda man no him on that on our take the enemy Baga one by gamma parole parallel in second Lieutenant Lieutenant Quinn militia only bilateral for perimeter one properly.

00:32:51:16 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Okay. Your feet matter your, For more to speak to space. The area is that always will be he. But listen Holland professor Como? Come on. Okay. Yo, the VR conference is that one win. Okay, you know what? We move after the name. When he went on, the yoga was the new apple. That’s Nueva Saki. This. He was, you meet in Europe.

00:33:30:03 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I’m in era in, movie in Alpharetta. And look in this airfoil escuela. Pero no no, no. So we are wrong. Something so that we, you know, he may. It was okay. My school and he the supermarket by there. It’s a particular that I don’t want to see if we you see pero Como trabalho también. He told to woman will stall of the in el trabalho.

00:34:03:17 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: They were out of the water where they eat all over the world. Will we, kill them Allah vengeance ministration the pussy me replication italiano living in the other side. No, no. Okay. Good way. Okay. You in today in quarantine. Here. Take away. We’re selling the siempre and quarantine stays in you siempre see a day in Virgo?

00:34:32:10 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yup. Diaz de noviembre. I mean, the day are narrow. Then, you know, since. But especially yesterday in the other school there were. We’re with you may parallel whovian. No, no winter dollar.

00:34:46:12 - Patricia McDaniel: Yes.

00:34:47:06 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: A performance. Yeah. Missing earlier that one todavia this here on down the agenda me and whatever. Look at our CV and look on the US. A market to in a state Mrs. La Scala. Yeah. Cuando Covelli square la la la studio logo logo the mafia the in these go to the offended. Yeah I know why you’re on both be the mayor I don’t basado.

00:35:19:19 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Oh now you 279. You know I don’t I don’t miss I work for the ACLU for miss. And there was Moses here Mr.. Is, You okay? Sally Poco wing. Well, our by the back of the when I used to it. una you the the the a prince. He, memo to inform your you were here. I believe that’s the.

00:35:49:19 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Then there’ll be a fish up Pacific, Union Pacific. He do it on download tablets. Yaki. Yeah, yeah. Yes. The location Union a key. But cuando me I put in this, Yeah. Okay. Here for you. Yeah. Lucia, send me whatever it in me custody. So keep America nausea. If we open the before you finish all this stuff.

00:36:18:16 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Oh, I see it because we’re ballin so nice. Now, I. Oh, really? Yeah. Beer.

00:36:29:06 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Is your speed for mass studio for the near your lower video. Okay. play call me, Mr. Barbara license and all. Do you? I have slow and don’t work. What do you mean? I, I not you.

00:36:49:05 - Patricia McDaniel: Yeah, yeah. Never see. Yeah.

00:36:50:13 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: See, pero I was doing what you’re doing. No masters in my network. And I handle the case of the studios of In Style. you see, and all that by in which churches? Yankee. Okay. No, no, no, he don’t need know. Yeah. I mean, Paramount told them I will be Edward was on tickets, but there were ticket there.

00:37:15:18 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Came through the app. Okay. See, with the normal, I can get on a few and number. The next to the end for see a and see you. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I bring the bus. Dante in a more like assistant. Oh no. Leverage the necessary decisions sobre las cosas gave them pasando for doing that. When get.

00:37:54:11 - Patricia McDaniel: Us to my back.

00:37:55:25 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And YouTube make Como lazy will demand the government to me that, the men no they’re honest la chance have the political science man accounting accounting a do a businessman last your career. But I’ll do it cover typewriter time writing with to Columbia and Australia. Maybe for me, Senora, equality was to nothing is,

00:38:33:28 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Also write a symbol zero zero formal. Your. When he know to know. penmanship. Penmanship requirements in the police stress political science. Government is in a country as you see me again. You attacking attacking. Bueno yo mucho porque I there, you mother violence. libraries. In the in level most Como liberals to come to us ciertos Como areas I will not the of meals and see if the particular and that to local for Malawi.

00:39:23:12 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: A bill told us it was may that we know we are hunting. Where is he on this can be you that one mucho the aim queen. We okay when the busses to get Yahweh el minimum is siento sin de cuando esto es to the the lowest culmination common settle nap or no signs and no mexicanos people near no Negroes is no esto.

00:39:55:00 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: No no tanto. Okay, cuando you.

00:39:59:16 - Patricia McDaniel: Give the serum, I am necessary. nor the missus. is that’s not accent this. No.

00:40:08:09 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: No.

00:40:09:02 - Patricia McDaniel: I see in person and and I just disinfected one or.

00:40:11:25 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: No. And this I don’t And unless and the Como thing when time weary.

00:40:20:14 - Patricia McDaniel: When you see the new incident.

00:40:23:02 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: You know, they are seeing not an ultrasound on CNN Bluebird. That’s gonna happen. This is.

00:40:32:22 - Patricia McDaniel: The control.

00:40:35:24 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And this is a North Korean one, very, North Korean restaurant and was Korean. The executive exit. And you just know that pero dos of you. Okay. ERA Como, this invention, lemon, when, nosotros lo repent, we are Como si one thing where we vamos and maneuver. No Mexicans.

00:41:05:15 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Then the I told us to the and it goes to the end of e pertenece siendo and and Los Eagles and this moves near Los Knights Columbus man but then issue here in this American Legion he left all of meetings bilaterally Quinto ver to your. Yeah. You belong to they in its own temple when we move we have TiVo of devo in in toto even after I read una persona and I go with.

00:41:43:08 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I see with your back, Emilio our moving on those empty they they must miembros one let’s go for the rest of the me having a million that k her k can look, Olivia is unnatural and mean talk lose hearing this let mistress Depot. Train depot. We are working Nampa is for you all you. I don’t know that we all signed.

00:42:14:14 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: No Mexican, no negro, no Indian, no Jews. You know, if you hear that I cannot do that. You can not kill me, will there, ladies? Listen, Mira, all the Mira and try to, you know, to you is Mexican meal is white. Okay? I didn’t throw mucho. But when, sir, you see when it’s good, when we have, you know, a minimum, Peking Opera details.

00:42:42:20 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Any Lucy attack. Yes. You know, there’s been Ferrari guy to your ambition. You have been you what? Your own circuit and movie and you. It you Okamoto occupied much of the ulaby. omit. I mean, I don’t allow them to murder e and that I’ve got a little better than it. Pero you’ll talk to Hope and says it’s positive.

00:43:10:23 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Glanced around the table. No demonstrations. Noon. Okay. Yo, if we put in metal music, con can call Luis. Shriner. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, I lp, you can see.

00:43:34:13 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: A movie in temple. Always for it will mirror. If only the report is. Of course, I must mean the know that that you name after the and say. You have to know that’s going in December. yeah. Yeah, I know they want me to know. Kelly wants to do to Karachi. I in contra and neither think okay number can keep a Laura to then la must my lover boy that play two virtual Tokyo is a Levant I meet us here.

00:44:14:16 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: No we prefer Casey. Only love us to, I recall her to Corazon. You see? No. Vienna. So try to l. Vienna. Hello. Because see moves here. You’re Renee known Izawa the lovely a también poquito both cava es para us want this. Allow us in. You want to see it? I might. Do this. Display the quantum perimeter meeting.

00:44:52:13 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Know from Dumbledore that all those is all in one is state of Idaho. You’ll always point out you know, Leo mission stations. You don’t want this man. I don’t know when. Welcome. So. Well, okay. Ulises here. You know Korea. You know Korea. I in one enemy you Korea. Casey we are there. It just blown up before now. And,

00:45:23:06 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And United States of America under the Constitution of the American Constitution of the United States of America. You Korea standing right in and to Aquarius I where the who in my way. You cannot for the way you yes, you when when the yucca, bacon and claro. We are left turning organizations with a también I mean let’s go then let me trouble and said hey can we send we send letters.

00:45:58:28 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: We send letters to the Senate to the House, you know. Yes. Simply y no l l el primero. No no no no no matter what the that we submit muchos documents, they look it up as little as the movie Darby Motel. They did. You didn’t say one letter. Well, assistant titles. With them parameter. Down with them. Prepara. I’ll get the senora done.

00:46:31:06 - Patricia McDaniel: Mandarin Los documentos are Washington or, key and.

00:46:35:08 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: key equal are all the way to Washington, washing them with copious animals. Montana is the copious with all the metropolis. Learn the tenian no, no. You see me because so a it’s also the point unknown with.

00:46:57:08 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Ally the premier. Premier with no peso 4k. we have new wording. A new paragraph can. Okay. Well, yeah. A level and senor can show you that way. And Metro, Sherman. The civil Service commission that I’ve done McAlinden them that you medical 21 to have to go and and have to go back and lo la to remove Tito a lot rewarded and paragraph SC a young cuando you have to be in football, Mr. Collins.

00:47:42:10 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yeah. You senior your reforms happen. If we could be to the both the new group for we agree with the with the change the no home at this. For.

00:48:03:08 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Buzzsaw and. And And Bill 217 to 17.

00:48:13:00 - Patricia McDaniel: See that is removal there he there I.

00:48:15:16 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yeah, I know they.

00:48:17:03 - Patricia McDaniel: Because I see you. Yeah.

00:48:20:16 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yeah I’m.

00:48:22:19 - Patricia McDaniel: Then I say.

00:48:23:10 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Oh when the at the ferry cargo worth all the while Aquino for the aware ninguna classes discrimination for good for care autonomous and not need neither okay proprietorship scheme or brown and yellow whatever. It always okay. Yeah it’s p yeah. Well you know tenia mucho nothing you want to do. We are common service and there was a nine year old also automotive.

00:48:59:11 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Well why don’t we see what 4K locomotives in point I. Oh they know every since entitles me. He said to see a couple with bueno. Yeah, yeah. Sorry. This way. you’ll see the in our handle within the community, you know, all over to the schools, to the, to the hospitals and, and and, raising money for for sick people.

00:49:37:00 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: He and I want the me save we popular. Okay.

00:49:41:16 - Patricia McDaniel: Here get words.

00:49:43:09 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And and emails that for me and me and and we’ll start are you are I said in connection. We need that for the of the whole user in our opinion. You with the ahi. Yeah. Yeah yeah. To complete North embassy circle. No waste is enough okay. Yellow categorize your you down in a month. I didn’t me or bueno you could okay I can estaba viendo said.

00:50:20:00 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Just give us the details in the human. If we avoid the if we have of Rudy been.

00:50:30:22 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Paying the Orlando your come in cuando. And you know what she talks this motel continue to start on people didn’t even our retailers in US towns the money in drug interrogated come to the businesses and I want you well one more kino mouth say wrong thing. All those the senora continuing us and you know that we sell. This is for you.

00:50:59:27 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: What did you see? The woman you know? Yeah. Me apparently Yemeni privacy. Canadian. Anything. You us moving? Okay. No. For them will swear in what I said. I’m the probably for me the only Brazilian meal system before ultra hombre question you instead. Are you available I here, sir, in the most distinguished citizen of the state of Idaho.

00:51:39:28 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Utah again. You know, look to me career if you do anything yet Rudy Azaria. They know how much electricity. the only problem when you when telomerase cool story end and see more than one. No no because this is it will be that the many, many old this is this physical. When I hint to I say so many when that when.

00:52:11:16 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yeah I seen and Sally used to wear more when need to compliment those cartoons. He told the Washington DC. The Los Senators. Woke up for three full fiber. Okay, there’s only one on the the the community on.

00:52:34:00 - Patricia McDaniel: Our land is is really most distinguished. Oh, thank you so much. Good movie.

00:52:41:06 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: you bueno cuando bullet of us all. okay. You have 50 stab in. Our radio una carton. We will need to the Frank church. The state senator. I mean, you with us, Senator? He tambien the mucho mexicanos getting in position. Daniel, position your best in the Rancho Levy. You know, in in Washington, DC may be in Bonita, la rezone mask cargo when it up and more consists.

00:53:26:08 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: No because the super what are the the state of Idaho or anything like that okay. Or alligators we go war. oh. Listen, I, did demonstrations and no, I never no, no. And so in comes to a law before, and that is what America stands for. You will all the way from the bottom to top or from top to bottom.

00:54:01:14 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: American America. So, yeah, at, to when travel for you for 11 year to hand to the, the then Pueblo Yaqui, then my your the pueblo. If you, you sent me the, the can you County Sheriff Dale he’ll he rich let me and he came. They all came in person. They’ll, if the whole thing come around my chain know.

00:54:37:04 - Patricia McDaniel: And they got all of the signs that were in the windows and start to disappear.

00:54:41:29 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And disappear when the first day that they, they heard that the bill passed, there was there are no more.

00:54:48:15 - Patricia McDaniel: They were not they.

00:54:49:07 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Were all I went up there and checked myself. They heard they was watching for that. And they they.

00:54:56:01 - Patricia McDaniel: Stupid they they took them out.

00:54:57:24 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: They didn’t. All that.

00:54:59:21 - Patricia McDaniel: Tell me about your what age were your children? Well, all of this was going on.

00:55:05:15 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: well, my, old girl was ten when when the bill passed on to it two years later, after she she she give me that.

00:55:16:27 - Patricia McDaniel: How do they feel about.

00:55:18:06 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Oh, they feel they feel, towards me. I thought time when they were a little racist. Then they say you got a lot of power with your forgiveness. You know that the power is, is, it’s everybody, everybody that help, including the bishop, all the fathers, all the men, everybody. There’s I just made. I made the head man, you know, and because the news media was there for me all the time, you know, and times, my, my face was on the picture, on the paper and, and little things that I say and all that.

00:56:08:26 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And then they used to approach me about, how did I feel about the Mexican children that, they’re so, so, lack of, schooling, you know, and things like. And then I give my, my $0.02 into that, and no one was taking place at some time about, the Mexican people come over here from Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and it California to work and why?

00:56:45:15 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: In the same time, they ask me why the Mexican people feel so uneducated. I say, well, what you see here is what you, you see on any in any town, on any big town, even United States in the skirt. And you see the poverty.

00:57:08:09 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: In any place in Texas, they, they have more white collar workers. The only thing I did coming over here or lawyers or doctors, then nothing but a poor people, they cannot even find jobs over there. For they had they come here looking for a job and that’s all you see, you know, and this is my fight. We have to educate these children equally with their wisdom.

00:57:33:13 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: They have the chance to go to school and and the the people, the teachers and and the, state officials and all that. They start to listen, you know, listen, we got a real, real pretty fair, you know, and, that we will more and more and more. My boy, my boy was,

00:58:05:09 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: 19 I’m going to take that back. on August 1962, Olga was 20, was 2020 because he, too was born 1942. I was thinking, you know, I was talking I was thinking 1952, not 96. He was 20. And she was so happy and so happy that this happened. She was 18. And she told me that.

00:58:39:23 - Patricia McDaniel: When she first came in, the the story.

00:58:41:22 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Was a story. See, I was all wrong right there. So I made a I will bring it back because there was 19 59. 20 when she told me that. 5859 someplace along there. And then I took it from there.

00:59:02:10 - Patricia McDaniel: that’s what started you was the story that you did.

00:59:05:12 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Years.

00:59:06:00 - Patricia McDaniel: Before that you didn’t realize?

00:59:08:02 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I didn’t realize because I was going to school, you know, all day work over here. Sister Barbara and and then at night, I go, and I go in school. I keep going to school, you know? So I didn’t put no tension to. No, no, I didn’t even go here. Go there. I just my work over here and and the school.

00:59:33:00 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Until one day, I heard this, so I went out and checked myself right quick and all that, that all I had to know what they say a lot of people call guts, but it’s no guts. You know, for me to do this, it’s my right to do. It’s not good, you know? You know. And so.

00:59:58:10 - Patricia McDaniel: do you you you are considered in the Hispanic community. Then today, a leader, you stated, the leader who.

01:00:06:09 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yes. I still get lots of calls from a lot of people.

01:00:10:09 - Patricia McDaniel: Well, I hear about you from a lot of people to.

01:00:14:01 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And so, I, I just cannot say anything about, else just to, A humble heart, you know, that trying to do something for for his his people. Yeah. You know, the humble way, the most humble way can be, you know, no violence, no nothing. You know, just. And it did work. My. I get to live to see it.

01:00:50:24 - Patricia McDaniel: Yeah.

01:00:51:12 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I go into the courthouse today. When in those times when this happened with none. No. No secretaries, no police officers, no nothing. Only white people, see. And in order for us. Well, I keep saying to that my the sheriff, my my friend of mine say you have to have Hispanic in the force. At least one you have to show the the the people, the Mexican people, the ones that come out with the education.

01:01:35:07 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Mr. Secretary, you know, for the for the, in the courthouse. Within the courthouse, all this kind today, regardless where you go, you you see, you all.

01:01:53:03 - Patricia McDaniel: And that and that is, you know, that is what is so wonderful because then they act as role models.

01:01:59:25 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yes.

01:02:00:16 - Patricia McDaniel: Or and for other Hispanics.

01:02:03:16 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Correct.

01:02:04:23 - Patricia McDaniel: And that’s what you have been to.

01:02:06:18 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yes. Yes. That’s what I was I always I got clips in there someplace that I can so many movements that we moved from here, you know, until we bought this house. You know, we don’t know where that we was. I was looking at for, for, you know, to show it to you. And the picture of the, distinguished citizen of the state of Idaho and all that is there.

01:02:33:19 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I run into that the other day.

01:02:35:23 - Patricia McDaniel: It’s a good year and a house.

01:02:36:23 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yes, yes. And so, It’s one of those.

01:02:49:29 - Patricia McDaniel: This is Patricia McDaniel. Today is November 15th, 1991. I will be interviewing for the second time. so I knew it was the biggest of Nampa, Idaho.

01:03:05:19 - Patricia McDaniel: This is Antonio Rodriguez. Our second conversation today is November 15th, 1991. We will attempt to have this part of the interview in English. All right, Mr. Rodriguez, the other day we had a conversation all about you are living in Idaho and becoming very active in the civil rights movement here today. We’re going to concentrate a little bit on, questions of your of your, Hispanic history, your Hispanic heritage and also culture and living in the community.

01:03:38:06 - Patricia McDaniel: begin by asking, first of all, how do you define yourself? Are you do you define yourself as a Mexican, as a Mexican, American, as a Latino? How do you define yourself?

01:03:49:21 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I always find myself, Mexican American, Mexican descent. Always. All the time. And, I don’t go for, for, Any other. Just Mexican American.

01:04:12:06 - Patricia McDaniel: Is this the same way that your parents identify themselves?

01:04:15:16 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Exactly.

01:04:16:09 - Patricia McDaniel: They they identify themselves as Mexican Americans. And your children. How do they identify the same thing? The same thing? Same.

01:04:28:25 - Patricia McDaniel: has this identification or this label, this identity that you have influenced you in how you have lived in this country or context of influence?

01:04:41:26 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: you mean to become to think about Mexican Americans?

01:04:46:29 - Patricia McDaniel: Yeah. To be in. Oh, well, in this country.

01:04:50:03 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: One where it begins was way, way back. Way back from, 19, 1927 that, there was so much, so much discrimination against Mexican people in Texas that, my daddy, all Mexican people cannot belong into, any city, like, city council or becoming, police deputy or nothing long. You’re a Mexican. Yeah.

01:05:24:18 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: So I was pretty, pretty young that I, even my myself because of Mexican, you know, because Mexican. And can’t do that in Mexican. Can’t do this in Mexican. Can have this and all that. So I considered, okay, in, in our thinking, in our mind that, okay, we’re Mexicans and what about, you know, so that’s one of they grow.

01:05:52:19 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I said, well, if I am a Mexican, I am a Mexican American citizen, Mexican descent. That’s what I want. And that’s where it was. Where the beginning of it. Okay. There is no other way for me to say that I am, Latino. And if we call Mexico Latin America, I am a Latino, you know, but, like today, you know, here regionally, they start with this Hispanic, Hispanic, you know.

01:06:33:22 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Well, I am Hispanic. History, I guess, and and very proud of it because, you know, I think we, all these little nations that I for, I mean, here and here, you know, like, Argentina and, Brazil and all the South America and they all Spanish speaking. I think we can, outnumber United States of America.

01:07:04:25 - Patricia McDaniel: By many.

01:07:06:04 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And all Spanish speaking. Yeah. You know, so and that put us, right now and a pretty high category that we got a language we belong from, from, Hispanic descent. And we’re very proud because we count in this world just like anybody. Oh, excuse.

01:07:32:09 - Patricia McDaniel: Me, please tell me about when you said that. When you were young and living in Texas, you weren’t able to. Or Mexican Americans were not able to participate in the civic government of the community. They couldn’t hold office. They couldn’t be part of the police force. Tell me a little bit about how those limitations influenced you.

01:07:53:06 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Well, starting with the school. See, we, the Mexican people, they have their own school, grammar school. And the white people have their own. The Negros has their own. So they all separate. And, and that’s where they start that that, when I start learning about life, you know, I keep myself as an individual. I keep thinking, why is this?

01:08:27:21 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: You know, this when I was around eight, eight years, nine years, you know, before that we didn’t put no tension about a little white kid. They used to come and play in our yard, and we played with him like we were brothers, you know? And, and sometime the, this, white people come home and all that seem like they don’t like for the key to to get mixed up with us.

01:08:59:23 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And they took him away. And when he could not, the engine and so, so we grow up in, We, we start learning more and more about a little bit about that. We have rights but the, the, the law and that little official and that city when we were born, we can’t see the Texas they had the law and the, officers, they, they, they, they get, all these jobs, you know, they got some work control in and within the city, within the county that, Mexican person cannot, drive a tractor when it is on the city for the city or do anything or if you wants to go, a boy wants to

01:09:59:04 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: go to be electrician. They do something to stop that kid. That’s the way. What? You know, they don’t want. No, no, no, Mexican descent people. affiliate jobs where the whites was always taken. They don’t want, in other words, let me say this. I went to I went to look for a job. I was 14 years old in a restaurant, and, it was during the depression.

01:10:36:28 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And sometimes they pay us $0.50 a day, and, this, this man, he says I ask for a government of, Yeah, government. We used to go buy Gomez, you know, over there, you know, and, yeah, I, I, you know, the Gomez good workers and all the rest are all I said, well, I give you $0.15 a day, you know.

01:11:03:20 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: $0.15 a day to wash dishes and the rest. And then, well, I said, let me go see my father, you know, and I went and told my father, and I said, no, they don’t give you $0.50 a day at least not don’t work. And I went told him I went back and told him. He said, well, Mexican people, he says they don’t need their ma, they don’t need they don’t eat very much.

01:11:26:23 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: They don’t need no money, just little bit, you know, just keep him alive. I remember that, and that will clear down to my heart. And I started creating grudge against whites. Yeah. Really? Really. And so, we went we continue school into a new school until we learn more about. Right. Hey, nobody, according to one of the, the Constitution of America.

01:12:02:07 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: You know, we we’ve got an equal rights.

01:12:05:01 - Patricia McDaniel: And you learn that in school.

01:12:06:16 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: In school.

01:12:07:08 - Patricia McDaniel: You in school. And it was all Mexican children in school. You were learning about the American Constitution.

01:12:13:05 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Well, and, you know, the the the teacher had, limitations to, you know, to teachers. And they didn’t teachers. exactly. Or, evaluate our, our work in school as it should be if you, if I, if I fail on on a little something, you know, they, they, they put the, they fix they fix my papers if, if I done it right, because they want me to to go.

01:12:49:12 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: They want to show someplace that this boys, they really learning well when they get up there and, and on the eighth grade. Well, what did I have? Nothing. Nothing. And I won’t have nothing to go high school. Right.

01:13:06:18 - Patricia McDaniel: When you say you had nothing at the eighth grade, does that mean that you didn’t have some of the you didn’t have the abilities?

01:13:13:19 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I didn’t have the abilities because I didn’t learn it. Right. You know.

01:13:17:17 - Patricia McDaniel: It wasn’t talking. No.

01:13:19:23 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: No. The teachers, who were your teachers?

01:13:22:25 - Patricia McDaniel: Were they were they white or were they right?

01:13:25:27 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: They all we.

01:13:27:05 - Patricia McDaniel: Know and they limited what they taught you. so that you would be so that you would be limited. Yes. Am I agree.

01:13:36:15 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: There was a limitation.

01:13:38:05 - Patricia McDaniel: How far did you go in school?

01:13:40:01 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I went to seventh grade systems, grades.

01:13:42:22 - Patricia McDaniel: What about girls? Mexican-American girls? What, were they able to go to school?

01:13:48:04 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yeah, they they were going to school too. But there was the same treatment for them. The same treatment? There was no it was a cruel people there. It was a cruel bunch.

01:13:58:15 - Patricia McDaniel: You were talking the other day that you came to Idaho because somebody here told you that the life here was better.

01:14:04:17 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yes. Well, the people who invite us over here to to come and work in there. And the beets, the one he told me is, Tony, you can make over there $5 a day, not $0.50 or a dollar a day, because it’s a guaranteed job, you know, for certain period of time in the summer, all kinds of new jobs and everything that that’s the reason.

01:14:30:26 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And this is and they treat you better over there, treat you like a human.

01:14:34:19 - Patricia McDaniel: And when you you said the other day that when you came to Idaho, they did treat you. They did did very.

01:14:39:18 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Very, very.

01:14:40:13 - Patricia McDaniel: You still find discrimination here. You talked about it a little bit.

01:14:43:20 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Well, the only discrimination, that I found was that, you know, like I told you the other day on the 60s, I went about these signs and, and, beer, beer joints in and barbershops and things like that, you know, and then they put this sign, all this kind of no Mexicano Negro, no Jews. No, no Indians, no dogs.

01:15:10:24 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: You you know, that’s when we got mad. Yeah. Okay. Well, that’s a kind of discrimination. But, a lot of, oh, my people used to call discrimination when they couldn’t get, a job that they want. You know, it is today. If a man go and ask for a job at the police department and he don’t have the schooling and the knowledge, you know, to even to fill up that that, application, well, he won’t have no business there.

01:15:49:24 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And some, they used to cry discrimination. And this is why I went to, to, become, pretty close, member of the within the police department there for quite a few years to learn what was going on, and there was no discrimination there. It was it that they didn’t have the schooling, you know, how can a six gray man go and get an application and fill it up and and and and then become a police officer?

01:16:22:06 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: You know, so I start I start going back. And I was one of the man I, I stayed in the police department until I become the chairman of the committee, you know, the Civil Service Commission within the police department and, city council. Well, the city council will have to approve me, you know, when I first start and all that.

01:16:47:26 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Well, and then, I mean, we we put, applications all over, and I had some times in front of my desk, the 3 or 4, Mexican descent people. But when you get to the schooling, you just don’t reach, see? And then because I was there and they called me or they called me here in room of their business, is it only how come I didn’t make it?

01:17:21:08 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And then I explained, they believe me, but they didn’t believe quite right.

01:17:26:24 - Patricia McDaniel: They were willing to what you call my background education. But would it be possible that somebody would not be able to, qualify because of his education, because he didn’t have the opportunity to be educated like you?

01:17:41:05 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yes.

01:17:41:19 - Patricia McDaniel: Well, have the opportunity to be educated.

01:17:44:28 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And some of the people, they they had an opportunity, but, but the job that they have to they they’re the only no to do, they have to go from a state to state or, or there were no jobs. It’s what they, you know, they have to work and go to school at those times. And it was impossible to have it right on their home, on the one place alone, you know, so they can go to school and work.

01:18:18:27 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: That was very hard for many, many, many. Like I said the other day, everybody that comes here to Idaho, we have they’re starting since 1935. We over here, you know, nobody come here to Idaho as a lawyer or doctor or, you know, well, engineer or whatnot. Only uneducated people can work. And people and including myself, you know, and that’s what you’ll find in Idaho and Idaho has been, has been, a real, what they call, sparkling star for us because, regardless of the of the struggles and, and, arguments and veils and this and that, you know, I can see and Mexican people, fruity, good and high progress and

01:19:18:29 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: and the school and children learning.

01:19:22:01 - Patricia McDaniel: So speak and Americans are putting a value education. Yeah. So their children and do you do you feel that they real that they believe that it is with education that their children will be able to.

01:19:37:17 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Progress in advance? Oh, yeah. and, and you know, you know, I had, an article on a paper way up there, 1960 that all I see is the schooling for my children, my my people. That’s why I used to put it. I want more opportunity for them. Let’s find, way to educate those. Stay from the state.

01:20:11:01 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Go working folks to see if we can reach them a little more. You know, and that’s when they start. And then 1964, when, when the civil rights become about, that’s when they started, with over here, all the children, they come to the camps and the folks come up to work, there was a place for them to, to go to school or they have one in the back on, in a camp or something.

01:20:44:04 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And they were they all weren’t going to school, you know, like first grade or second rate kids. They continue. They’re not just losing their time for nothing. And that’s why that is same thing. You can see at that time there was nobody, nobody Mexican girls and men, it’s the secretaries all over like it is now, right everywhere now.

01:21:15:11 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And this is my dream. When I go and visit those stores and I see those young girls and all that, and. And I, I walk out of those places real happy for them. They don’t know that I’ve done that. They don’t know me. But I go around. So that’s a good feeling.

01:21:39:16 - Patricia McDaniel: Let’s talk a little bit about the custom that Mexican Americans have in you and particularly with your family and of the customs that your family handed down and that you still have, what customs that you had. what what questions were handed down to you by your family?

01:22:01:28 - Unknown: Well, like, we take religion, with the,

01:22:07:04 - Patricia McDaniel: Traditions and holidays and.

01:22:10:06 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Oh, we have. Well, we always, since I was a little boy, my father say, I was, I lost my mama when I was five. And my father, he keep taking us to the Catholic Church over in Port City every Sunday. It was five miles away.

01:22:29:22 - Patricia McDaniel: Was the Mexican.

01:22:31:07 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: American with here and. No, there was a there was desegregated there, too. We go to the same church. The whites have to be on the right side and and the Mexican people on the left side. You cannot say for the whites what it was.

01:22:47:23 - Patricia McDaniel: With a priest was English speaking.

01:22:50:08 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yes. And they have they have, once in a while they had, a Mexican priest there, like, maybe help or the other father going to retreat or something, but he came and gave them mass and all that, you know, and, this Mexican father, he used to come for us. We never just say nothing to the white people.

01:23:17:02 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: But he says, look, he says, they they won the right side. He says the white people don’t know what is their rights. Right? And we ask the father why. He says, look, they face in me on my left.

01:23:38:11 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: so, we just take it for fun and we laugh a little bit, you know, they say. But he used to tell us, don’t use no grudge. Don’t condemn their life to their doings. Love them. You know, that’s what on the livestream, and that’s. I mean, he’s in the restroom. No, no, no, we, no.

01:24:06:13 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Three. Now, this is where you learn the the, catechism. The catechism and all that. Yeah, all Mexican people, boys and girls. And then he used to, that’s when the father, Mexican father used to come over and he said, you’re doing the job that God wants you to do. They want to do it different. Let him do it, but don’t hate them.

01:24:31:06 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Don’t this and do. That’s when I started. I was already about 15. That’s what I start saying. Well, who am I to hate who, you know, and I didn’t, we we got break up on that, you know, so we, we love we love white. We love black. We love anybody, you know, because we they explain to us there is you are nobody with the will of God.

01:24:58:13 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: You can got no business here. So you here and got business because of him. And you know that way he he was real good.

01:25:07:01 - Patricia McDaniel: So that Catholic tradition was very strong.

01:25:09:28 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yes it still is. Still isn’t that great. I went last year, I went to family Reunion and it was a big wedding in my cut. One of my cousins who still is. Yeah. Very strong. We love it.

01:25:26:17 - Patricia McDaniel: And your children are and your children have stayed in the church.

01:25:29:28 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Oh yes. All of the traditions in the past. Yes.

01:25:33:05 - Patricia McDaniel: All of them are there, are there Mexican American customs in, in your Catholicism that you recognize that aren’t done in the white Catholic Church now, which are there holidays or cuts or. it’s definitely sad. And holidays like, will be a commercial, the adoption that they can see that the reason they.

01:25:59:21 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Guadalupe correctly.

01:26:01:08 - Patricia McDaniel: Recognized that. Yeah. I know that in the, Anglo or the white Catholic Church.

01:26:06:19 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: They don’t move. Right.

01:26:08:05 - Patricia McDaniel: But are those kinds of.

01:26:09:07 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Oh, yes. Every year, every year we have a big doing here in the Church of Saint Paul. We, sometimes we get out 5:00 in the morning and one bunch up over there with a lot of flowers and phone, and we send a plasma in Anita’s. You new to her? You know, in his sound. And sometimes when I, I used to have, mariachis over here, we take the mariachi to the church, and at 5:00 in the morning with that beautiful song, I mean, music, you know, can bundle underneath that and wait.

01:26:47:25 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: February. Very happy.

01:26:50:06 - Patricia McDaniel: Yeah. Know what are holidays that are celebrated by the by, you know, Mexican Americans that aren’t celebrated? Well,

01:26:59:17 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: We we celebrate the Cinco de Mayo, and then, I’ll just say this at the embassy. You know, Bellavia, it goes from very, very strong.

01:27:09:25 - Patricia McDaniel: And that’s a and that’s a holiday here in Napa for that and call.

01:27:13:15 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Well, well, car. Well, and, this is it says at the embassy is not been, made here in Nampa. My boy has been in charge of that and have been make in Boise because of the college. Yeah. You know, and.

01:27:28:16 - Patricia McDaniel: That’s also the Fiesta. That’s tomorrow.

01:27:31:15 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yeah. In Boise. That’s why, that’s why. And, they have mariachis. I don’t know if you want this. Last year now I was in I had to go.

01:27:40:25 - Patricia McDaniel: To a conference in Florida that weekend.

01:27:43:18 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I think I.

01:27:44:14 - Patricia McDaniel: Didn’t get. But last year I went.

01:27:46:14 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Oh okay. Well see they, they it was so beautiful that they even the, the, one of the main guys from Seattle, he came over because of the image, organization and he, he makes speech, beautiful speech, you know, and he says it. This is the first time that he ever seen so many Hispanic people acting better, than us.

01:28:19:12 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: He says. And we will listen, you know, we we we are very, very interested to listen what everybody’s saying, you know, without a turn in the face and start talking with somebody else. And, and that man just, smoke in his head, you know, and nobody listen. We always listen. And and it was packed. It was packed.

01:28:46:18 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: It was Rudy Pena. He made a speech there, too, and and so on. But there was real, real beautiful.

01:28:55:03 - Patricia McDaniel: so you you feel that the cultural identity of the, of the Mexican American is very strong and recognized in his holidays.

01:29:05:11 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yeah. Yes, yes. very. We got a, we got, very good. young leaders coming up. You know, they’re getting they got. Well-educated and, and they coming out with with a good, good, work. You know, on that line like, schooling and tradition, culture and things like that. And, you know.

01:29:41:18 - Patricia McDaniel: How did you pass on to your own children their sense of identity and their culture?

01:29:50:14 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Live in it together with me. And I was pretty close to them. See, I was right here when they were growing right here. And Marvin and and, had the restaurant the same time, but what I did was that we was close in two days a week at that time, the business. And every moment, every second that I can, I pass.

01:30:19:06 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: It was my children, you know, and I always in the evening we sit down around when I take him out to McCall, Idaho City, you know, and mostly we stay overnight and we put fire. And I always was after them on, on our way of life, marry my wife. And it was so poor. We were so poor that I didn’t put no shoes in my feet until I was 16 years old.

01:30:54:07 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I go to kill a rattlesnake with my bottom of my feet. Did that.

01:30:59:24 - Patricia McDaniel: Because they said that.

01:31:01:07 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Dog.

01:31:02:10 - Patricia McDaniel: Is.

01:31:04:05 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Well. And then here I was with my family, my three, my three children and my wife, and around the fire. And then. Because of, the, I heard. Oh, here and there, you know, that, there was, there was a discrimination in certain certain places and all that. I keep saying to my children that nobody have no right to discriminate, nobody but the children and I used to say all things like that when I, when I was young, I told them how I was growing up, up.

01:31:53:21 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And we always put those things aside and behind us. And you, you have more opportunity today. All three of you, that to go to school and learn your, your rights and fight for your rights with in the law. Don’t take the law in your hands within the law. And then, I keep on and on, you know, come down.

01:32:36:04 - Patricia McDaniel: The creek. Okay.

01:32:45:15 - Patricia McDaniel: All right. Go ahead.

01:32:46:24 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Well, I used to to tell them about, makes a little bit about Jesus. I bring it a few times, but a few times to them. I said, remember, we was born and raised in Quincy, Texas. Mary was born in Hebbronville, Texas, north where we are about 2000 miles away from where we were born. Why? To better ourselves on the job.

01:33:14:00 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And this is it. And this is not wrong at all, because Jesus. The mother and and, and, Joseph heard this angel tell him to go to Angel to save the children’s lives.

01:33:32:21 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Well, if you can feed them. That went someplace in the state for a long time over there. The whole we the. We can’t come here and stay for a while forever. He gave us that. For example, I said yes, Jesus. And, And I put it to them the best way I could, for them to, to rely in and God and Jesus when they need help, you know, just asking.

01:34:09:24 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: He’ll give you give it to you by asking. And they went on and they and they got so many questions for me, especially the older girl. She was almost seven years older than the other two. And, I answer the best way I can, always, for the good of of, of their future life. You know, I never did.

01:34:44:21 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I never did bring anything to them about grudge or mad or anything. You know, about nothing. My my children. of course, right now they are the oldest. She’s going to be 50 here. Buddhism and junior is 41 for and going to be 42. And Mitch is 39. And, that they can say that I never I always hide myself.

01:35:20:06 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: If I going to say a word like, cuss word like, oh, goddamn it or something like that, I never I try not to be in front of them ever. You know? I don’t want them to know me that way. You know that I, I, I will look at them. They come in, you know, I respect them because I feel in my own heart that if I don’t respect that child, that child won’t have no respect to me.

01:35:49:19 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: you know, and and I cannot given advice, and hold, you know, so I use my head pretty much. And embracing my children because my daddy was, was one of them to him. And he was pretty, pretty strict with us, by getting, ourselves in trouble and all that, he was pretty close to us, you know what I mean?

01:36:14:21 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: He always sit down with us, and he says, look, Antonio or Santos, this, this, this. Did, you know, things did to happen on his on his young life. He bring it up to us. Whatever happened, you know, by doing wrong. And he explained it to us and says, why do that? You know.

01:36:34:28 - Patricia McDaniel: Do you do you feel that the that the idea of mutual respect you for your children and your children, for you is stronger in the Mexican culture than it is in the fight?

01:36:48:27 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Oh, 98%. 98%. I think my Mexican culture, any time. Oh yes. Yeah. You know and and that and now white culture is too much of a mess. Respect the children, don’t respect the fathers. If they respect it, they respect it because they got a bunch of money from them for a little while. They run out of money.

01:37:22:09 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: They go back to father and start, all over again. I don’t say, all of them, but, full pretty high percentage.

01:37:33:06 - Patricia McDaniel: But there is but the respect, the high level of respect for parents, for their children and children, for their parents is stronger.

01:37:42:25 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: in Mexico. Oh, yes. Yes, I can say that here. I can say it in the white House. Yes.

01:37:50:20 - Patricia McDaniel: Do you feel that the family structure is stronger in the Mexican. Yes.

01:37:55:11 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yes yes, yes. It’s not so much. Liberty. The, the like Mexican mothers, they stick with their kids and

01:38:16:09 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Teaching them the and growing by the years and trying to get him away from troubles and all this I say that percentage they’re careless, you know, and they they they they do the same thing, you know, like, Anglos, their own tradition with their kids, with kids, you know, they don’t they just don’t care. I seem like the kid comes in and says that I want the money, as then I ain’t got no more.

01:38:54:11 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I want money, you know, that kid won’t won’t stop and ask him no more. He. He wants that money. No explanation, no nothing, you see, because the kid goes, ha! Where he goes and get trouble. Okay. And then. And the father, mother, the Anglo father, my monthly, the highest person. And they got job, they got money and all that to get together with that kid and take him for.

01:39:24:12 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And they belong for them to take that kid and break. He’s thinking about getting wild. Yeah. And go and get drunk and. And what happened? They call him that. He got killed on the road, that the car rolled up and all that. Well, this becoming on the Mexican, American, the same thing.

01:39:48:00 - Patricia McDaniel: I was going. Yes, I happen to be Mexican American.

01:39:51:11 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yes. Because of the miserable dope. Everyone that that they get in trouble and wrecks and all this and that is either an alcohol or a dope related, you know, that is not the tradition that they, they, they come from is that they learning in the schools and the schools and not Mexican tradition either. You know, see, so they they learn to be wild.

01:40:26:26 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: They learn to be free from the father, the father and mother. They don’t have no dual restrictions. What so ever. You know, if, the father, like he used to hang out with when I grow up, my father says, see this whip? I never want to use it on you. Just don’t never disobey me. Never disobey me. And you know I will never use on.

01:40:53:14 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I disobey him one time, and I have curse right here. I run away from him, and he had the whip in his hand. And he goes like this to, you know, to me, you know, to to to wreck my. And, the, the point that we hit me in and went through my clothes and skin.

01:41:18:27 - Patricia McDaniel: You know.

01:41:19:14 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And then I stopped very quick. And that was the only time in life that he’d done that. So I, he used to tell us, he says, don’t obey me. And anything because I don’t want to do something I ran away from I was but I was younger, 13 years old. But that was old enough to understand better. I did after that to be.

01:41:42:21 - Patricia McDaniel: Old enough not to do it again.

01:41:45:02 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yes.

01:41:46:13 - Patricia McDaniel: And that is, you know, that is, good. I it just my own sense tells me that that’s very strong Hispanic cultural, thing to be very close to the family and, and disrespect. And then of course, the, the, the obedience comes from that respect for the direct. Yes, but it, it, you feel that it’s eroding as the, as the Mexican-American child becomes more American.

01:42:18:22 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yes.

01:42:19:03 - Patricia McDaniel: More and more more of the angle. ways of doing that. can you recall some of this talk just a little bit about cultural events here in Idaho. Can you recall some of the very early Mexican cultural events that happened here in Idaho the other day? You were talking about the little town that you came to live in when you first moved here.

01:42:42:12 - Patricia McDaniel: What was the name of that?

01:42:43:15 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Aberdeen.

01:42:44:03 - Patricia McDaniel: Aberdeen? Were there any Mexican-American cultural events there in Aberdeen?

01:42:48:27 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: No, no, I think, when we got there, there was only about three families, you know, in there. And, And the job is, is so, so much when we got up there, we got a big bunch of people, us and then some other. We didn’t. We know each other because they live on the ranches and everybody’s working every day.

01:43:18:07 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Long hours. You know, we never come to town or or get together, like you said. Go like on the 60 was Cinco de Mayo or on 16 in September. We just let that go because we were nobody. We didn’t have no backbone there. Like we say, a leaders do say, hey, we want to get together, we want to do this.

01:43:40:01 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: We’re going to try to do this. You know.

01:43:42:22 - Patricia McDaniel: Not it never.

01:43:43:13 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Did. Not enough.

01:43:44:11 - Patricia McDaniel: Bad start. Did it ever happen in Aberdeen. Did you ever have that in everything. How did you come to that.

01:43:50:00 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And no, I don’t I don’t remember because the last time I was in Aberdeen that, just before I, when I come out of the service in 1946, I went back in 1947 for, for one of these, I think, was Cinco de Mayo a couple of days and all that with nothing moving, just, a dog by that time, the the, the Mercado family and the other one passed, the last name passed.

01:44:27:27 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And these penas several, you know, they were living it all. They get together and they had little tamales and they had just in the house or on the porch someplace, you know, and and they, they drink little beer and, and eat tamales, and the kids play ball over there in the front yard and all that. But there was no, like a public, doing thing.

01:44:53:21 - Patricia McDaniel: It was there’s a, there’s a lot of that here in Nampa and in Caldwell. When did it start and who started it?

01:45:01:03 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Oh, I started did you. Yeah.

01:45:03:27 - Patricia McDaniel: Tell me about the first time that you organize the culture. Oh was it what what holiday was it?

01:45:10:27 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: that was, 1919, 57 I start, Getting together the the the labor camps, you know, to celebrate.

01:45:29:07 - Patricia McDaniel: What holiday?

01:45:30:20 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: the 16th of September, 1607. what I did here, I was working for the employment office. The employment office. I work for employment now for five years. They put a sign over there. I’ve got two pictures where it was a branch from the from the, employment office in in Nampa. I was working as a barber and farmers, they called me, and they put their application for so many men that they went to minimart, and I had them over here all the time and looking.

01:46:04:26 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And when they knew that I get jobs over here, you know, they they would come. And, since I see so many, you know, they come in the summer, as I said, you know, these people and they, they I don’t have some telling, you know, like dancing girls and, musicians and and all kinds, you know, for. You know.

01:46:35:25 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I sit down and, I kind of put names. Colwell, Nyssa, Ontario, Wieser, Caldwell, Nampa, hoon, Dale. And then a hill on 12th Avenue labor camp. They used to be. And then, Franklin labor camp, all those little camps. And I don’t remember if I went to I think I did, hum. There are mom home, and I won one man or two out of each camp to meet here or any more, any place, for it is more central, centralized place.

01:47:22:16 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: You know, they all came over here. And of course, I had the business and and I put up some beer, you know, and Mexican, way of getting together had to be very good. And then, I, I got up and I told him that I had an idea. Maybe, maybe we can get together and do a big, big fiesta, you know, and right now, everybody agree?

01:47:57:03 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Okay. because at that time, I was going to school and I was learning, and I said to to all these people, I said, listen, is is very, very easy to hear something like this and say, yes, then get up and do it later, you know, and very easy. So if you don’t think that then you cannot do it or something.

01:48:29:21 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: You think you’re going to be in front of you. You can go over. They know they can’t let Satan out. Don’t say it later because he I going to put a hole in people’s name, you know, what are you going to do in your camp? It’s your business. You want to make a float and you’re going to have a little, dancing voice or or singing or whatever.

01:48:56:22 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: That’s years. But when they’re ready, I want to go to the other and the other and the other and going to be some. But I mean, you know, some gifts and all this, you know, and I had, I had the, the sugar company, Amalgamated Sugar Company and our favorite, in fact, that she put some money, she put some money for some boys.

01:49:21:24 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: We had, I can’t remember so many outfits that he been calling it. Tony. We like to get in there. If my name going to be there. Some guy. Oh, yes. And your name will be there if you contribute. And we done it. So beautiful. We dress some of the girls that didn’t have no money to to to, to build dresses for the girls and, you know, and, and from all over, you know, the women, Mexican woman, they come and says, hey, I can make the best, the best.

01:49:56:03 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Gina Puebla, dress. And I am a seamless seamstress. And, studied, you know, this year, it it all comes up on her together. You know, I go, oh, esta with Como three months before, you know, they in comenzamos, you know, see you in the end of it. And it it comes out. Cada pueblo Goodman Chanel Rita who is right and Nathan.

01:50:34:24 - Patricia McDaniel: Campos.

01:50:36:17 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Is here on a float, y’all. I went down to the city mayor, and I asked him, what did I, I was wishing to do on this particular day because we prepare we like to have,

01:50:55:25 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: A chance to present our Mexican culture within this, parade that we, we want to bring to town. And we went, all of you talking about people was the first time.

01:51:12:14 - Patricia McDaniel: Did everybody come?

01:51:13:17 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Oh, everybody. Everybody. And plus and and, we have that, Parade. And then the fiesta. We made it. We make it over there, and they all, They used to be the serious group works in Kailua, and then they had, Safeway store, and there was a big, big space in between. There was nothing but parking.

01:51:48:13 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: So. We, we have people selling. Oh, come all this time because, you know, like, little stands over there and a big space for dance and, when we go through around, oh, about an hour and a half, probably, more or less, you know, the parade went through, and then we all got together again, the leaders, you know, and he said, let’s let’s get this these, float up there and we put them all and every place we can around the on this place for this, dance and everything on.

01:52:39:19 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Okay. And that you could see him and, and the stage everybody have, you know, the, the Anglo people there was eager to help, you know, they were there and, and they asking us to say if you need if you need my prayer. I got a trailer with a flatbed and and I got these and that, you know, beautiful, beautiful.

01:53:05:09 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Well, okay, so I was one of the programs. I was, I kind of, Or, sorry, a clowns guy, you know, I, I do, I, I supposed to be the first one to cheer the people I did, you know, the girl was there, was helping me. She was real good. She was a professional, you know, and, nobody knew me until I took all these things that I had on me.

01:53:37:01 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: You know? Well, anyway, the dance start the next day, the the the news media called me. They they went out there and I didn’t know. And they, they took all kinds of pictures, all kinds of pictures, you know, and then they, they they reached me and they told me that there was little over 7000 people gather in that.

01:54:12:02 - Patricia McDaniel: And this was the first one first.

01:54:14:26 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And we continue, I done it for five years. See, until after five years, you know, my business was growing so big, you know, that I, I knew I was neglecting it, and I didn’t, but it come one guy from California.

01:54:39:28 - Unknown: so my wife, Raul Ramos.

01:54:45:09 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: He was he was with the employment office, too, over there.

01:54:50:11 - Patricia McDaniel: In California.

01:54:51:09 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And California, they I think it was in Sacramento, you know, and that to to help me. And I said, I don’t, I don’t think I won’t be able to, to, to do anything except give you an advice here and there. I said, I want you to take over. You know, he got together and the first one, he made it almost identical physically.

01:55:20:05 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: And I was very, very pleased. But, the second year, you know, something went wrong. Something you know, the people don’t want to cooperate with you. You know, they come here and and and we said, we want you to. And then they went, A little sour. And then the third year.

01:55:53:03 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: The third year, there was another man over here from labor camp. He wants to he he got it. He done real good. He done real good, too. But he die on us. He went back to Eagle Pass and and, we got a phone call. I got a phone call that he had done. Yes. This man died in a heart attack.

01:56:21:18 - Patricia McDaniel: But that’s how was he was was started by you. The recognition, was started by you and then, you know, and after five years into this.

01:56:30:17 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: All right. Yes.

01:56:33:15 - Patricia McDaniel: Well, Tony, tell me something. We don’t have very much tape left. Let’s go finish. Tell me, what do you feel about how the future will be for the Mexican American here in Idaho? What does the future hold? How will it clean?

01:56:51:07 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: I say that it’s a good. It’s a good, trail for the Mexican American in Idaho, Oregon and, in the state surrounding Washington. Because, like I say, the schooling and, and the majority of the of the, of the Mexican people, you know, work, don’t scare them. I hear this from, from my Anglo bosses all the time.

01:57:28:26 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: They get, to work. And those they, they stay working. They don’t cry so much. If they get paid $0.50 less than the others, they just stay there until when they, Well, with good opportunity, they come out and say, ask you after 4 or 5 years, probably for a race, you know, they entitled to little race or something like that and, but, fathers, jobs even today, right now, even the, the uneducated which as long as they know English, they’re good job that, that, that the Anglos don’t like it.

01:58:17:12 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: They go and get it. See. So I say with education it would be more or less more opportunity. There will be no, no, black in the future. more, more chance for the white than it is for the Mexican descent. No. Because, I seen in in the schools and I see it all over these, Mexicans and Anglos in the state of Idaho.

01:58:49:20 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: They’re putting words together.

01:58:51:29 - Patricia McDaniel: Do you think that the Mexican culture will, or the Mexican American people will be able to hold their culture together?

01:58:59:02 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Oh, yes. Yes.

01:59:01:24 - Patricia McDaniel: Because it won’t get lost in the Anglo.

01:59:05:07 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Well, if it get lost, if, Well, I can say, it can get lost. Like, for instance, I’m here today and my, my kids, they’re being here tomorrow. You know what? I’m what I mean, within 25, 30 years, my kids, well, they don’t know as much as I do my own kids. I do about my culture, their kids.

01:59:35:03 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: They ain’t got to know almost nothing. So that’s going to be staying behind unless they somebody coming from the South, with all this knowledge about the culture and practices here in the state, right. See, or any place.

01:59:53:11 - Patricia McDaniel: So in other words, the culture will remain alive. There’s always somebody who is very rude to the culture or brings the culture with them and renews it.

02:00:03:07 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yeah, well, it’s happening. It’s happening today. They’re bringing it up, you know, like you think like these, Johnny Kanellis, he he brings those beautiful music musicians, you know, to, to show it to the Mexican people over here. And if, if you ever have, chance to talk to this, Gilberto Flores, the guy who owns the the multipurpose, what they call the those skilled workers.

02:00:36:04 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: You can go there one night. Okay, maybe I can give you a, I’ll give him a talk and tell him and then let you go in, because every time he he cha. It’s going to be a matter from 15 to $25. Because he brings he brings the music that plays around, around Veronica Castro. You know, on that show that she she saw that she got.

02:01:04:12 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Well, those musicians is the one he brings here. So they cost a lot of money. And the people over here want it. You know, one time and two days, I sold, $1,600 that, you know, tickets for him.

02:01:21:15 - Patricia McDaniel: That he was going to Florida. He’s the one who has it who’s come closer.

02:01:26:25 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: See. And, if you go there and you see the multitude of people and the way they dance their local beers and things like that, you know, sometimes you get a terrible time to get in it. So Pat you have to pay.

02:01:46:08 - Patricia McDaniel: Yeah. Well I have to look into that. Thank you so much. It has really been so nice to have you talk and to listen to.

02:01:58:26 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: is it’s so many other things to talk about to, you.

02:02:02:29 - Patricia McDaniel: Know, through the, Q I it’s Q I come to Kevin Del.

02:02:09:13 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Rey when I see Como yo tengo también good weather. El mundo Q yo, you say they become well known man in the state of Idaho. You know, today I got, I am appointed 16 years ago by the governor on the Judicial Administrative Commission. You know, for years, I think I said that before and, of course, I belong on this and that and that and that alway become an officer.

02:02:48:19 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Always the people they. Yes, nominate me for, for that position. And, this is what I, I like to, to pass it on to. And some of the kids, they’re going to start school, you know that I consider me I didn’t know nothing. But when I really get into the office and start reading and finding out, you can develop, that, you can work it out the best way you can and the purest way you, you, you work it the people around like it.

02:03:27:29 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: They like.

02:03:28:18 - Patricia McDaniel: You.

02:03:29:05 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Because they like to put you in, he says, well, Mr. Rodriguez is going to think that this, this. And then I analyze it. I yeah, you right or whatever, you know, you know, fix it them but they don’t then after that because you, you really want that job. They don’t want you out of there. The next year comes and all they want you.

02:03:50:27 - Patricia McDaniel: You’ve become indispensable. And.

02:03:53:03 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: Yeah, on any place I go, I in some one place I had to resign.

02:04:00:14 - Patricia McDaniel: Because it was.

02:04:02:05 - Antonio (Tony) Hernandez Rodriguez: From employment. Because I knew it. So I couldn’t help.